What does the government want from George Pell?
What do the Pope, George Pell, George Brandis, Tony Abbott and climate change have in common? Quite a lot, suggests Vanessa Kairies.
I have been following the climate change issue for a couple of decades. I thought I had heard it all and seen it all, until now. I was recently having a discussion with a friend who showed me the most disturbing video regarding climate change. One, which I urge all Australians to watch. It is an interview on May 2015 with Professor Peter Wadhams. An eloquent man who has been studying the Arctic and Climate Change for 40 years. He is one of the world’s leading Arctic scientists.
In it he states:
“The volume of ice that remains in the Arctic in Summer is only a quarter of what is was in the 1980’s.”
“If that downward trend continues … then the volume will go on to zero in just a couple of years.”
“We are being very complacent about sea level rise … we ought to be realising that many coastal regions … will have to be abandoned.”
“This will have an enormous impact on the global economy and the lives of people.”
“The disappearance of ice in the Arctic is leading to warmer air masses.”
Obama got it, with the coastal regions of America to be drastically effected. He and most of the world have instigated the change towards reducing greenhouse gas emissions in their countries. They are turning away from fossil fuels in droves.
Last year, Professor Wadhams was among a group of leading climate scientists who gave a presentation to the Pope (and his advisors) about the threat of climate change. It must have had some influence, as in June this year the Pope released his encyclical calling for swift action on climate change in which he said:
“The Earth, our home, is beginning to look more and more like an immense pile of filth.”
“Climate change is doing most harm to the poor.”
“A very solid scientific consensus indicates we are presently witnessing a disturbing warming of the climatic system.”
Then the family feud in the Vatican happened when a month later our very own George Pell, Financial Advisor to the Vatican, enstated by the Pope himself, came out with the objection that “the Roman Catholic church had ‘no mandate’ to lay down doctrine on scientific matters“, adding that “the church has no particular expertise in science”.
Personally, when it comes to climate science I prefer to take my advice from the professionals such as Professor Wadhams – people who have dedicated their lives to study and science. The Pope does too.
George, are you being used as a pawn in the game that is Australian politics? More on that later.
Then came the revelation that Pell met secretly with Attorney General George Brandis in May this year, a month before the Pope’s encyclical was released. I wonder what they discussed?
Did George Brandis do a deal asking for George Pell to debunk climate change? Was it an exchange, guaranteeing a more lenient time in the witness box at the upcoming Royal Commission into Child Abuse?
George Pell has made the headlines here in Australia for all the wrong reasons.
In 2004 before the election, Pell met with current Prime Minister Tony Abbott. Shortly thereafter Pell openly attacked the Labor Party’s education policies. Tony Abbott denied that this meeting took place, but later admitted that the meeting had in fact taken place because he had sought religious guidance.
To digress, here is an old favourite of mine …
Returning to the Royal Commission, there are a number of questions for Pell when he does appear which may include:
1.Did he try to bribe one of the victims?
2.Did he ignore other victims’ testimonies?
- What was his involvement in moving serial child sex offender Gerald Ridsdale around to different parishes?
4.How much did he know about Ridsdale’s abuse of children?
5.Was he the priest that witnessed Ridsdale raping a child?
Was the family feud in the Vatican instigated by the Liberal Party and their need to debunk climate change? And if so, might it have been a bit too obvious if Tony Abbott had attended the meeting instead of George Brandis? Given Abbott’s track record, I think so. I’m now waiting for Pell’s statement opposing marriage equality. That one is a given.
According to the the 2011 Australian National Census, there were 5,439,257 Catholics in Australia, representing 25.3% of the population. That’s a big audience. I wonder how many of them vote Liberal? And I wonder how many of them are guided by every word from George Pell?
It’s fairly obvious to me what Canberra is up to . . . and what they want from George Pell, but what is the cost?
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Return to home pagePell has been a climate change denier for years. He even had the gall to make a submission to a Senate inquiry on the matter despite having NO scientific training or expertise.
Pell stated in his 2006 Legatus Summit speech:
“Some of the hysteric and extreme claims about global warming are also a symptom of pagan emptiness, of Western fear when confronted by the immense and basically uncontrollable forces of nature. Belief in a benign God who is master of the universe has a steadying psychological effect, although it is no guarantee of Utopia, no guarantee that the continuing climate and geographic changes will be benign. In the past pagans sacrificed animals and even humans in vain attempts to placate capricious and cruel gods. Today they demand a reduction in carbon dioxide emissions.”
In a 2007 article for The Sunday Telegraph, Pell wrote that while climate had changed, he was ‘”certainly sceptical about extravagant claims of impending man-made climatic catastrophes, because the evidence is insufficient”.
Responding to the Anglican bishop and environmentalist George Browning, who told the Anglican Church of Australia’s general synod that Pell was out of touch with the Catholic Church as well as with the general community, Pell stated:
“Radical environmentalists are more than up to the task of moralising their own agenda and imposing it on people through fear. They don’t need church leaders to help them with this, although it is a very effective way of further muting Christian witness. Church leaders in particular should be allergic to nonsense….. I am certainly sceptical about extravagant claims of impending man-made climatic catastrophes. Uncertainties on climate change abound … my task as a Christian leader is to engage with reality, to contribute to debate on important issues, to open people’s minds, and to point out when the emperor is wearing few or no clothes.”
In 2011 he delivered the annual Global Warming Policy Foundation lecture in London which came straight from a lecture by that fruitloop Lord Monckton. It was ridiculed.
Like all superior people, Pell has no difficulty in embracing two opposites at the one time.
Like all liars, he and Abbott have no difficulty in uttering as many untruths as they like for their own mighty purposes.
Why didn’t Tony Jones take so golden an oportunity to point up the outright lie ?!
Pell, Murdoch, Gina, Abbott, all IPA. all working together.
There is a long history of controversies and intrigue in the headquarters of the Roman Catholic Church. Pell is the modern version. He shows no respect for the current Pope and holds secret meetings with the Australian government to benefit his own agenda. He is a disgrace to the Catholic Church.
The nice thing about George Pell is that he makes lots of converts: to Atheeism.
If Pell and Abbott are exemplars of “good Christian values” then we need to urgently stop all SRE classes in schools.
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I think you will find the majority of those Catholics in Australia find Pell, Abbott and Brandis all are complete wankers. However, it is not just the LNP that has protected pedophiles in Australia. All major parties along with their judiciary and polices arms turned a blind eye to child abuse for decades, in the Catholic Church, the Anglican Church and as is now also emerging the Jewish religion, the Jehovas and civil institutions as well. Look at how totally ingrained it is in Western culture when we are now seeing the accusations that are emerging in the UK.
As a matter of interest, the RC sat in Ballarat from 19-29 May, and was scheduled to have a second Ballarat sitting with specific regard to Case Study 28. Pall did not attend the first ‘session’ but eventually agreed to attend the second session for Case Study 28. On the 30th July, the commission issued a press release to say the second hearing will now be held in Melbourne, commencing 23rd November.
This has greatly upset many of the victims, survivors and interested party’s who were keen to have pall in Ballarat, the scene of the crimes, where he could be examined under oath.
http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/2015-07/second-stage-of-public-hearing-into-catholic-churc
Over my journey, I have known many people from Ballarat who have stories and anecdotes about pall’s complicity in so many aspects of the church’s activities. Most of them want for nothing more than pall to confirm or deny their stories – under oath.
I regard him with the same contempt he regards all those ‘beneath him’. That is why I am very suspicious of his meeting with the AG in May and the sudden change of venue. Specifically as the commission previously issued assurances the second hearing would be conducted in Ballarat. It may also suggest a motive for his support of the government’s climate change action/inaction. You scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours.
Thank you for the article Ms Kairies. “George, are you being used as a pawn in the game that is Australian politics?” I doubt he’s a pawn, more like a bishop. In so many ways. Take care
The duplicity of Pell is staggering, he claims religion should stay out of science yet at every opportunity religion interferes on medical grounds, health, climate science, social politics the list is endless. I’ve always feared he would avoid justice through the commission thanx to abbott, brandis and the other detractors who feel our children are fodder for their indoctrination and perversions. Ban religion, nuff said
Let me offer what I think is a significant correction to one statistic. Yes, I agree that 25% of Australians were raised Catholic but considering that only 13% of these attend Church regularly, I think it’s safer to say that only 6% of Australians are actually practicing Catholics which reduces any political capital Pell thinks he might have, quite severely.
Thanks John. We overlooked that.
Way off Topic, because there is no Topic with this heading. (‘n likely won’t be)
Burke, Tony Burke. Bishop, Bronwyn Bishop.
Yeah, pick on Pell, Brandis, Abbott.
Just gots to be vewy, vewy quiet about Burke.
This site is very Orwellian about who is better at the moment.
Methinks, we are about 3 legs and not sure which way we are going, either 2 or 4??
If a member of our armed forces is posted overseas, to a training job, they are only allowed subsidies for family travel and accompaniment, if the posting is in excess of a certain amount of time. I believe it is still about 12 months.
Now our Policing Forces, who are often put in harms way, to defend us, do not have the privileges that our Politicians have.
Why are our Politicians allowed this seemingly, open slather on the “fruits of Australia”. They seem to have a sense of right, proportional to their sense of worth to our Country.
The instant loss of any multiple, at any instant, would have no effect on the running of Australia, in any shape or form.
Benefits and remuneration, which are afforded our servicemen and women, should be seen as a gauge line for all public servants.
I am not about raising Service Pay or Reward, but in drastically reducing that which is fed via the ‘trough of gluttony” to other servants.
So watch the coming months, a bit of a check up on Pollies travel rorts, will cement the current feeding rules, not change or reduce them.
Mark Needham
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I was never firm in any belief, until Pell. He showed me the ”evil, power and wrong” in religion.
Yes, 67 years old, C of E, a subject that I had some knowledge of, Church School education…………but really never worried one way or the other.
The Dawkins, Pell debate, Christopher Hitchens, (don’t we miss this great man) confirmed it all for me.
Yes Pell is an irksome, unbelievable person, one of the worlds Scammers.
Mark Needham
Grandees tend to hold lesser mortals in contempt. Pell is a prime example as are the members of the British Establishment given to sado-masochism, paedophilia and pederasty. They really believe themselves to exist on a higher plane above such petit bourgeois considerations as the morality they rely on to keep the masses in order.
As a young ship’s cadet I encountered one such Establishment reptile comfortably hiding out in Napier in the 1960’s. He set out to impress and ensnare three of us so we led him on to indiscreet disclosures before walking out of his lair.
This creature rightly believed he was still legally untouchable and was sanguine about the protection afforded by his local and international connections. We didn’t find out why he was holed up in New Zealand but assumed he had made himself persona non grata through some egregious act that made him a potential embarrassment to his friends.
Thankyou from the bottom of my heart George Pell for making me realise that the catholic church is run by evil people, including you. Now its my turn to spread the gospel of how you covered up pedophaelia amongst your clergy and allowed thousands of childrens lives destroyed!
When Abbott sneaked in before daylight by the back door of St Mary’s tells it all. THe then had audacity to lie about it on camera. Just gave silly smirk when video shown of him sneaking in.
There is nothing, as far a I know, with Abbott visiting Pell. Why the lies, guilty conscience.
And I am sick of hearing about this ten years after these monsters are dead and buried. Things are done in plain sight because they know they can get away with it.
Fascinating article thank you Vanessa Kairies.
I’m convinced that Pell is evil. I am convinced that Abbott is sick.
I think Professor Peter Wadham’s interview is a very serious eye opener – a few points I have summarised as follows:
the IPCC “criminally complacent in not addressing off-shore methane” – in other words IPCC is dangerously underestimating climate impacts!!!
we have no chance of preventing global average temperature from exceeding 2 degrees C – we have already passed that threshold.
we are on track now for an increase of 4-5 degrees rise average global temperature!!!
the risk of runaway offshore methane release is ‘high catastrophe + high probability yet we are not even researching options to stall it.
stopping all CO2 release is not enough anymore – we have to physically cool the planet i.e. remove the currently accumulated CO2!!!
a form of modified ‘fracking’ might, and he says ‘might’ not ‘will’ help limit the methane risk, but no research is happening because 90% of global scientific research money goes to weapons research (seems we need to vastly improve our methods for killing each other – f*ck survival!!! my comment)
global political leadership is too cowardly to take any action and suffers from a conspiracy of complacency.
global warming does not produce any sudden changes to trigger our response mechanisms, instead, it is a progressive effect that science can see, and can measure and can model but which the political class refuses to acknowledge – this is criminality writ large.
to get some idea as to how the fossil fuel era has distorted modern human thinking, consider that every industrialised citizen has at his/her command the equivalent of several hundred slaves in the form of fossil fuelled engines, fertilisers, and electricity with all the myriad machines driven from the powerpoint in the home and office.
finally, Professor Waltham tells us “arctic sea ice is retreating faster than the models predicted, this being the result of other factors from open water such as waves, storms and currents”
I’m hearing and acknowledging the science – but who is prepared for the next step?
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I suspect climate change is being deliberately engineered to create a global crisis that will allow the 1% to step in and create one world government.
As for the Pell they are deliberately trying to destroy the church from within to destroy People`s faith in God and break the healthy community bonds that an honorable church creates. There is a concerted effort to crush all religion.
Stephen,
I think that the technical term for your post is ‘conspricacy theory’. Do you really believe this sort of stuff? 1% of 7 billion is 70 million people. Who are these supposed control freaks and what do you think they are going to achieve with a ‘one world government’? The only engineering of climate change appears to be carried out by the fossil fuel industry for their short-term financial gain.
I don’t like to be uncharitable, but your post really does appear to be very silly. Have a good day anyway.
Oh my god the global conspiracy on climate change. I thought that one had been done and dusted a couple of years ago but here it is again.
Stephen Lake do you know how much it would take to engineer a conspiracy on this scale and the vast amount of people needed to be in on it and keep their mouths shut?
A question. Why would the one per cent want a change to existing arrangements when those arrangements have benefitted them so magnificently?
Why would the one per cent who own 50% of the world’s wealth take the risk of losing any of that?
Matters Not the conspiracy is that a different 1% (usually inferred to be left wing) want to overthrow the 1% you refer to by fabricating a massive scam that involves just about all the world’s governments, 97% of the world’s climate scientists and most other scientists along with faking melting ice caps, glaciers and weather extremes over many decades.
The sheer amount of climate data, which is openly available to everyone, that would need to be manipulated on a massive scale over a sustained period of decades that it beggars belief governments, major scientific and economic institutions haven’t uncovered the scam by now. Yet here we have the conspiracy advocates saying just that. Apparently nearly the entire world has been somehow scammed for many decades now. Amazing.
Not sure how you get in the high 90% oof world scientist on side.
Steven Lake,
Thank you for posting your suspicions and theories about the geo-engineering of GW as part of a scam to install WG for the benefit of the 1%, as well as the Samson-style attack currently occurring in order to destroy the world’s religions.
However, I suspect the secrets you have revealed may have attracted the attention of our reptilian masters.
I would recommend lining your computer room with tin-foil, and keeping an eye out for circling black helicopters.
Ps, apparently cattle mutilations are on the increase again.
[apparently cattle mutilations are on the increase again]
Too much whipping late at night to get the crop circles drawn in time for the morning show.
Actually there is a conspiracy with RE. For the most part it has been owned by the left leaning business people and profits are pretty low, and we all know lefty types are simply not entitled to own major profit making businesses. The neo-cons do not like that so for the time being they are talking RE down as higher profit margins can still be made from their existing long held investments in oil coal etc. Be assured though that once the situation changes, once enough of the lower cost oil etc has been extracted, they will be purchasing the talked down companies and will be all over RE endlessly promoting its virtues.
The Luddites running Australia will be remembered by history! Perhaps the Catholic Church has no knowledge, nor interests in science, but I can assure you the Jesuits do! Apart from running the Vatican Observatory, the Jesuits have been the curators of technology, including the use of atomic energy for ALL purposes. As for the Cardinal, would some of his victims appreciate closure from a man who appears to represent the worst of the tyrannical church?
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