In 2007, Federal Education Minister Julie Bishop accused Deputy Opposition Leader Julia Gillard of behaving like a “fashion model or TV star” rather than a politician.
“I don’t think it’s necessary to get dressed up in designer clothing and borrow clothing and make-up to grace the cover of magazines,” Ms Bishop told The Sunday Times.
“You’re not a celebrity, you’re an elected representative, you’re a member of parliament. You’re not Hollywood and I think that when people overstep that line they miss the whole point of that public role.”
Ms Bishop said The Australian Weekend Magazine shoot, in which Ms Gillard posed in designer clothes and pearls, was “her Cheryl Kernot moment”.
“Why would you go along and do a fashion shoot as Julia Gillard did the other day, with clothes by Carla Zampatti, jewellery by . . . hair by . . .?” Ms Bishop said. “That’s not what it’s all about.”
Ms Bishop said posing for magazine covers was “not my style”.
“Of course, people want to know more about you, but I don’t think you should be courting that celebrity status as if you’re a fashion model or a TV star, because you’re not,” she said.
In response to Julie Bishop’s criticism, Julia Gillard pointed out that The Australian interview was quintessentially about politics.
She said Ms Bishop’s comments were “inaccurate in the impression she’s trying to give of what I’ve done, and inane in that it’s not the sort of thing that matters to Australian voters”.
“They want to know what’s happening with their education system, with their health system, with their industrial relations system. They’re the sort of things that matter to them, not this sort of distraction.”
So imagine my surprise when I see Julie Bishop featuring in fashion magazine Harper’s Bazaar this month.
And how does she use this opportunity?
She reiterates she is not a feminist and tells women they should “stop whingeing and just get on with it.”
“Please do not let it get to you and do not become a victim, because it’s only a downward spiral once you’ve cast yourself as a victim,” Bishop told the fashion magazine.
Right then.
Domestic violence would all go away if we just got a job that pays hundreds of thousands and covers all our costs, and read Harper’s Bazaar for advice.
And there she is again in Who magazine where she “talks fashion, running, and style”.
“FOREIGN Minister Julie Bishop has topped the list of most intriguing people of 2014. Bishop said she was living the dream in her interview for Who’s Best and Worst 2014 issue. Others on the intriguing list include Lara Bingle, The Bachelor Blake Garvey, Jesinta Campbell and Buddy Franklin, Rosie Batty and Ian Thorpe.”
Julia….I miss you
Such astounding hypocrisy. What’s next, I wonder. Maybe she’ll treat Tony a Abbott to a mysoginy speech.
I miss her too!
Ruh roh….Julie’s gonna be pissed off
Labor deputy leader Tanya Plibersek proved more adept at watching the throne, clinging to her hallowed position as Sexiest Female Politician for the second year in a row. Second and third place were taken by Larissa Waters and Penny Wong respectively, with Greens member Sarah Hanson-Young coming in a disappointing fourth.
The Crikey Arsehat of the Year award went to Tony Abbott. Our beloved Prime Minister Tony Abbott is less popular with Crikey readers than the actual leader of Islamic State. As were George Brandis, Malcolm Turnbull, Sharri Markson, George Christensen, Jacqui Lambie and hastily pawned national treasure Rolf Harris.
Ranking second in only the most generous use of the word was Attorney-General George Brandis, infamous in internet forums as the man who never metadata he didn’t like. Third place went to the Oz’s media editor Sharri Markson — we’re expecting a ground-breaking expose of the leftist bias of Crikey’s readership any day now. 🙂
…hhmmn…for myself, this…puts the ‘U’ in UGLY…I’m delighted our ‘investment’ is helping her to fulfil her ‘dream’ of vacuous clothes horse…(apologies to all the models in Mensa)…can’t have everything I guess! Silly me…I thought she was supposed to be helping US…which is not an acronym for United anything, by the way. What is the feminine of ‘wanker’?? Wankess?? Belle
Diane Arbus would be proud of such a shot.
The wretched and ugly captured in a macabre imitation of beauty.
I wouldn’t do what she does cause what she does I wouldn’t do.
My doing is different because I am the chosen one and I could not countenance denying the masses the gorgeous radiance and wisdom of my adorable presence.
Its like making a lying promise to save another from immediate grief. I lie and deceive for your own good knowing I am protected by a higher power.
Bow down to the Armani fashionista of deep wisdom and moral fortitude so that you too can be as me.
Gorgeous and unassailable (well maybe to the right bidder).
Please cover the pictures I am getting eye burn and brain malfunction.
Hypocrisy is their stock in trade.
Vanity Plus!
Typical of the Libs, trying to sell the voters mutton dressed as lamb.
In case you are wondering what prompted the harpy to attack Gillard in this way (aside from ‘it shoulda been me’ envy)…
“The Federal Government was planning a “get Gillard” campaign, with Coalition research showing she remains Labor’s weak link. The Coalition believes Labor has been unsuccessfully trying to remake Ms Gillard’s image in recognition she grates with voters — particularly women, who believe she does not share their family life experience.”
Julie Bishop said “I have nothing to hide, but I don’t promote my personal life as a reason for people to vote for me” but I sure as hell will use Julia’s personal life to make you vote against her.
remember when she gave Julia Gillard professional advice as a lawyer. “Just go to the police and tell them everything” why they werent asking her to. if a lawyer gave you that advice it would be only if they felt admitting guilt early will help you. She gave it as professional advice she should never be allowed to practice again for abusing her profession to give advice for political gain only. would like a higher definition picture though (checking for the mark of the beast)
These people are incredible. Pots and kettles have nothing on the sods.
While I loathe this lying, vicious hardliner and otherwise applaud you for pointing our Bishop’s incredible hypocrisy, I have to take umbrage at the sexist title on this article – it’s just as ugly and personal as ‘ditch the witch’ was about Julia Gillard. We need to be above crap like this, otherwise we’re no better.
“Julia Gillard has said “decency” should require coalition members who falsely accused her to apologise after the royal commission into trade union corruption found no evidence she had engaged in serious wrongdoing or criminality.
The royal commission recommended criminal charges be considered against scores of officials from three unions but found the former prime minister committed no crime and was unaware of any crimes committed by others.
“Australians may well ask themselves whether the millions of dollars the Abbott Government has spent on a twenty-year-old matter that was already in the hands of the police would have been better allocated to health, education or law enforcement,” Gillard said in a statement after the royal commission released its interim report.”
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2014/dec/19/union-royal-commission-finds-no-evidence-of-serious-wrongdoing-by-julia-gillard?CMP=share_btn_tw
The Deputy Opposition Leader, Julie Bishop, today escalated her claims, accusing Julia Gillard of criminal conduct.
JULIE BISHOP: She and Wilson and Blewitt wanted to hide from the AWU the fact that an unauthorised entity was being set up to siphon funds through it for their benefit and not for the benefit of the AWU.
JULIE BISHOP: Did the Prime Minister receive any other benefit from Town Mode or any related entity?
JULIA GILLARD, PRIME MINISTER: Oh dear me, we are down the bottom of the barrel now, aren’t we? We are down the bottom of the barrel.
MELISSA CLARKE: The lawyer with 20 years experience again using every single question the Opposition had, but not all passed the umpire.
ANNA BURKE: I think these last two questions are going beyond that and I’m ruling them out of order. The Member for La Trobe.
http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2012/s3642409.htm
glamwhitetrash,
You make a very good point. In an obvious attempt at pun I ignored the very valid issue you raise.
I had thought about “silk purse…sows ear?” but couldn’t resist the headline mentality.
I would change it except I think your point should be heeded.
Thanks
and sorry
Julie Bishop is an immoral moron who will lie for the team. As a young sociopathic lawyer, she tried to deny mesothelioma sufferers their rightful compensation. This, along with her good looks, qualifies her to be the only female on the front bench of this sociopathic government.
Absolutely – hypocrite from top to bottom. …… but what else would anyone expect from ANY member of this current Government.
To stephen t …….
…….. ” Bow down to the Armani fashionista of deep wisdom and moral fortitude so that you too can be as me. ” ………
In applying that to Madama Julie Bishop here ….. it makes my flesh crawl.
Does the ‘death stare’ come with those poses.? ….. or with the “Kitchen Cabinet” series she flirted, winked and grinned her way through ( a while back now ). ? Of course not. ……. [ I seriously thought she might have been auditioning for a role in some ABC production, such was the simpering.]
She keeps that little death stare jewel for people she considers below her – i.e. all of the Opposition – or anyone who questions her on Q & A., or in any interview !!! and most likely those unfortunate enough to come across her in every day ‘ ordinary people ‘ life ……
She is the harpiest of harpies ….. and an opportunistic nut-cracker. … ( read that whatever way you wish !!!! ? )
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OOOH Joolie, the jealousy is dripping off you, you want to be as good and popular as J. Gillard, sorry Mrs Asbestos but your a big fail in all subjects.
I have done a great deal of 3D imaging and modeling, yet never knew of such Photoshopping of the likes of the Muduck Press for Julie. A complete respray in concrete of her hair would have been required for a start. The many other indentations of her face and her Mind I will leave to your imagination.
Great read, kaye! One of the vehicles for her success was the UN seat and tony walker observed in oct 2012 ‘It took Bishop some six hours after the vote to produce a formal response, which might suggest difficulties in getting Coalition views aligned’.
Belle, I believe the definition of a wanker is ‘an owner operator’ and therefore genderless. Being a pedant, I picked on Plibersek(she seems to have lost her anti-abbott power and, under the new leadership is better described as torpid tania) for her tribute to Stella Young was headed ‘comedienne’ but after my tirade I thought why not? Is it or actress demeaning? Then the confusion of female jockeys being identified as ‘Ms’ so that diehard punters can avoid backing horses ridden by women.
Too hard for an old twit but the exposure of bishop’s rampant hypocrisy was worth the read and re-read.
(Q) What do you get when you put George Brandis and Metadata together ? (A) Just a stamp and No envelope.
@Mike1 – How right you are ! Anyone with half a functioning brain would be ashamed to allow so heavily re-worked an image to be released. It’s a joke !
But then, so are they all, our guvmint. A really bad joke. One that, being re-told every.bloody.day, has long since become so appalling as to have gone a shitload of distance past merely groaning, and is now somewhere around getting out a set of dolls and sticking pins in them all.
I understand the female of Wanker is Plonker.
I just love the ongoing bare-faced hypocrisy of this liarbril rabble. As it’s the only thing they do with any sort of consistency and aplomb I suppose you have to give them a little recognition for totally lacking any ethical standards at all.
It should be said that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Julie can go through the motions of prance and pose, but she oozes fakery.
Genuine “class” cannot be bought or gratuitously conferred.
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Hockey and his MYEFO cleaned up at these Awards :
http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/Hockeys-MYEFO-budget-awarded-Best-Parody/2489893/
(la_lasciata), Thank You, but it stands out like the proverbial, how wrong and mixed up this Govt. is.
(Lawrencewinder), If Julie is a plonker (as you so rightfully describe), She fits right in with the rest of the Liberal plonkers. They can’t help just being themselves. Horses to water etc.
A few years ago I worked in a political office and a couple of colleagues either coined or adopted the term ‘spanker’ for someone who was worse than a wanker. Then there was an ‘ankle’ which is three feet (say 90 cm) lower than… An arsehole? Anyway the irony of what she has done is obviously lost on Ms Scumbag.
it’s all right – the whole thing just makes JB look like the total hypocrite she is, she must be able to see that. And if she can’t see that then she’s a fool as well. JG knows she is neither a hypocrite nor a fool. She remained true to herself and her beliefs in spite of the unrelenting attacks on her personal life, both past and present. JB can never hope to gain that level of respect.
She reiterates she is not a feminist and tells women they should “stop whingeing and just get on with it.”
“Please do not let it get to you and do not become a victim, because it’s only a downward spiral once you’ve cast yourself as a victim,” Bishop told the fashion magazine.
Does anyone else find these comments insulting? So women are supposed to cop it sweet are we?
I had the same feeling Itsazoosue.
I have been blessed in my life to always have had the support of decent people. When things go wrong I have people to turn to for help. Many people I know have not been so lucky. Julie, along with the blue tie boys, have never known what it is like to struggle. They think they work so very hard and deserve their success, just like Gina and Rupert think. They cannot comprehend what it is like to not have had that privileged upbringing and help along the road, or for things to go wrong for reasons that may be beyond your control.
As Gina told us “There is no monopoly on becoming a millionaire. If you’re jealous of those with more money, don’t just sit there and complain. Do something to make more money yourself – spend less time drinking or smoking and socialising, and more time working.”
Kaye, I love the headline. Made me laugh – very clever and eyecatching.
I think less time with the kids must be on Gina’s list too Kaye. But, it’s hard work using the millions daddy left you to pillage and rape the Australian countryside. If she is an example of what money does to a person then she can have it. A sad, lonely woman by all impressions.
Marchfly,
Being clever at the expense of your principles is wrong. Being witty? is not an excuse.
I was rightly pulled up for my own hypocrisy.
It’s so hard not to spit, swear and call bad names when talking about this government.
My gut feeling is that Murdoch is grooming her for a leadership challenge in the first half of 2015.
“Challenge” John? I know hypocrisy seems to be the hallmark of this government, but could they really get away with “assassinating” a first term PM?
Morrison is making a run too. For what I am not sure. Reserve in case we still aren’t ready for a woman? Interference for Malcolm? Further expansion of personal power?
As I see it they are looking to see what resonates with the focus groups – pretty woman who dances on international stage, tough guy protecting us from refugee invasion, or supposedly moderate compromise for all those who realise how bad this government is but must vote Coalition?
I guess Julie can string a sentence together without spitting which puts her slightly ahead of Scott. Let’s watch for who Rupert invites to dinner.
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Just calm down folks.
These rats are not for leaving a sinking ship.
Look I don’t think it will happen either but after listening to years of leadership speculation when Labor was in government I am happy to keep the Sinodinis ball rolling.
The rats are the ship.
Rats of a feather sink together.
Mike1 – ( your comment – December 19, 2014 at 8:54 pm ) ,,,,
Have done a lot of imaging in Corels Paint Shop Pro ….. and wonders can be done cloning, smudging, altering light and dark etc.
BUT the high tech. broadcast cameras – unedited – these days, really show the demeanour and age ( and aging rapidly ) face of Madama Julie B. She cannot escape that – much as she might like to. The heavy eye make up no longer conceals the bags under the eyes – she has certainly aged – much like her boss, the Abbott.
That “Who” magazine image, is only barely like her in fact. Her face ain’t that thin – for starters.
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@Kaye ….. ref. Morrison making a run. ,,,,,,, I reckon the last thing he’d do is run interference for anybody else on this earth, let alone Turnbull.
He is Morrison first – to last ……. and no-one else matters. …….. Definitely further expansion of personal power – to which I say –
God help us all. ………..
If that moronic despot gets within a bull’s roar of MORE power, who could stop him. …. Abbott can’t, hasn’t the guts , instinct or intelligence to do so. Nothing is beneath Morrison to try – and winning ( whatever ) is all he cares about.
Good article too, Kaye.
Stop attacking Tony Abbott! He’s by far the best person to lead the Liberals into the next election.
This “fete- ing” of Bishop is seriously flawed. Certainly next to her appalling colleagues and their entirely lack- lustre performance as political leaders, Bishop looks less appallingly incompetent . However when we listen to her ideas and see her performance at environmental and foreign affairs forums, there is nothing here to wax lyrical about. We see a politician devoid of original ideas, lacking understanding and intelligence of complexity and in no way the shining star being promoted by Murdoch et al.
Agree Iggy, TA is the best person to lead the libs…..out of government! bring it on preferably now 🙂 JB is a hypocrite.
As for Morrison he has way too much power already – seriously scary individual….
Did anyone see the strong, butting comments by Chris Bowen, Kate Ellis and Kim Carr? The blistering statements where they called attention to Bishop’s past failures and her pathetic hypocrisy about Gillard????
No… you didn’t read those statements? Ah well, never mind, neither did I.
Thanks for including my little choir composition. It does seem odd that Ms Bishop would speak one way and act in a very different way.
following the same theme of this story is it fair to say that Ms Bishop is Barron like Ms Gillard was labelled ,
Robert,
Thank YOU for such a wonderful piece.
By the way I think John Kelly is on the money , it will be Bishop being groomed to take over from Abbott, Murdoch is up to his old tricks as the Kingmaker and then if it happens Bishop will be beholden to Murdoch . But I wonder if Abbott sees it coming and how many of his DULL Ministry will be reassigned
Julia Bishop is hungry for the top job and she will do anything to get there. She has no moral compass and fits in nicely with the current government.
There are quite a few people, not least Julie Bishop, who owe Julia Gillard an apology following the Unions Royal Commission interim report absolving the former PM from any wrong doing in the so called ‘slush fund’ episode ; there are also a number of conspiracy theorists at NEWS CORP who will need to be re-assigned to more productive work.
On the subject of the Royal Commissioner’s interim report I seem to be missing something ; in the recommendations made to the Commission by Jeremy Stoljar Counsel Assisting was the following :
“Stoljar also said that embattled Health Services Union (HSU) office holder Kathy Jackson committed an offence by submitting a false claim of payment to the Peter Mac Institute, a cancer hospital.
“The Commissioner should recommend that the relevant prosecuting authorities in Victoria consider whether she should be charged and prosecuted,” the senior counsel said.
It’s alleged that Jackson requested a $250,000 payment be made to the HSU relating to an industrial dispute between the hospital and its scientists. The subsequent payment saw scientists at the hospital lose their rights to back pay.”
In my scanning of the report, there seems to be a complete blank when it comes to this recommendation – is this an oversight or has this elephant been hustled from the room ?
One positive for the Liberals in dumping the clueless Abbott for Bishop. It allows lets them play the misogynist card to deflect criticism.
I have been invited to model for Country Roads seniors winter range. Please don’t be critical I could do with the fee. They even promised to correct my baldness.
John, Hugo Boss want me to model their latest suits. They wanted a good looking professional.
I am thinking of bringing out my own jammies line.
After 40 most people get the face they deserve.
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I imagine James Hardie ,CSR and the W.A. State gov want me to go into battle for them because they haven't had any "positive" news since Bishop (the younger) did such "sterling" work in the Wittenoom case.
http://www.asbestosdiseases.org.au/the-wittenoom-tragedy.html
Kerosene producers have offered me a contract because sales have dropped since Bishop (the elder) last spoke on their behalf.
http://www.themonthly.com.au/blog/mungo-maccallum/2014/31/2014/1396219537/its-time-bronwyn-bishop-was-removed
I don't know what's to become of the Australian "nanny State" when "honest" people like Julie and Bronny can't defend carcinogenic products ….. thank dog we have Leyonhjelm to assist the tobacco industry.
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It's a shame the background of the Bishop (the younger) photo shoot is so bland.
Highlighting the Great bArrier Reef would have been nice :
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/great-barrier-reef-will-be-slaughtered-scientists-dismiss-julie-bishops-claim-reef-not-at-risk-20141121-11r4a6.html
I particularly like the term "slaughtered" in the above Link ……. could have used the "Carrie" theme as well :
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120212175407/stephenking/images/e/e9/408154.jpg
Then again a photo of an Indonesian Rhino would have been enduring :
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/feb/28/julie-bishop-axes-funding-to-save-endangered-sumatran-rhinoceros
As Gina told us “There is no monopoly on becoming a millionaire. If you’re jealous of those with more money, don’t just sit there and complain. Do something to make more money yourself – spend less time drinking or smoking and socialising, and more time working.”
Oh dear! What a spectacular bellyflop into the pool of ignorance. Would anyone hazard to guess where Gina would be without Daddy’s money? Not everyone can be millionaires, Gina and most people can only hope to be comfortably well off. You and your ilk are responsible for the great diividing wealth not the “jealous” ninety -nine percent of us.
If Ms Rinehart wants any credibility with Australians she should cease giving public comment and start paying her fair share of taxes.
She has to get rid of that ill fitting asbestos wig that elastic bands hold to her cranium
it’s just so telling
There’s nothing more tragic than an ill fitting wig
I think Julie Bishop is a very attractive woman in very good nick for a 58 year old. I have no problem per se with her doing a photo shoot. My problems arise from her blatant hypocrisy in her attack on Julia Gillard as part of a targeted ‘get her’ campaign. I also deplore how she used the platform. Telling us that “scrunchies are not acceptable in any circumstances” is hardly grabbing the moment to advance the cause.
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I have an "empathy deficit" when it comes to both Bishop (the younger) and Bishop (the elder).
http://www.theage.com.au/comment/julie-bishop-and-the-empathy-deficit-20141219-12ajf5.html
I guess my perceptions of the physical attractiveness of the current foreign minister are influenced by her comment that imminent death was no reason to hasten financial compensation.
Her mouth don’t look so pretty when it spits out shit like that!
Kaye Lee:
Frankly I don’t give a damn about her physical appearance. But I was wondering… have you ever seen her in the flesh? Photoshop can work wonders these days.
I actually stayed in the same hotel as Julie last year. We shared a lift in the morning. She was wearing the complimentary dressing gown and slippers, no make-up and thick black rimmed glasses and she had bed hair. She got off at the “beauty floor”. In all honesty, she still looked a damn sight better than me. But I agree…her physical appearance is irrelevant.
Physical attractiveness may be a personal irrelevance to many of the posters here, but it is still a factor in wider electoral appeal.
I do not condone this viscerally reactive prejudice based upon appearance, but I do acknowledge that it occurs.
For instance, in my instinctual perception, many of the disturbing remarks made by Mr George Brandis sound more sinister coming from a mouth pursed under a pair of squinty-beady eyes on a petulant and cruel looking phuz like his.
We all judge differently, but we all judge.
I often have a visceral dislike of people that seems to be quite intuitive yet pretty accurate. Could come from years of experience as a counselor. I more often than not look behind the veneer and can sense cruel and unsavory personality traits. I find it hard to look at the likes of Abbott, Hockey, Bishop 1 and 2, Morrison etc because they have an aura of meanness. Trumps physical appearance for me every time.
stephentardrew,
I have leaned to trust the hackles.
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"Obama makes history"
http://www.theage.com.au/world/us-president-barack-obama-takes-questions-only-from-women-apparently-a-white-house-first-20141220-12beex.html
None of the male dominated owners of the media are reporting what questions the female Journalists asked.
What hope does Bishop (the younger) have of becoming P.M. …… zero !
Hey Ricardo29 – In seafaring parlance a spanker is a gaff rigged fore-and-aft sail set from and aft of the aft most mast. So unlike the square sails she spits the ship fore & aft as befits the lone female in the ministry… You certainly have that right.
I served an apprenticeship from 16 to 19 with the lead guitarist in a band who played lead up act for great Aussie and international bands. It was quite a scene, one I decided I did not want to be part of. Being pretty is not enough.
One thing that troubled me was Julie’s comment (amongst the many inanities in her interviews) that she is “living the dream”. That’s what the band thought when I was a teenager.
I’m happy for Julie that her ambition is being fulfilled….now I would like to see what I am paying her for. She seems to have no empathy for the plight of the poor, weak and vulnerable. She thinks a death stare can surmount criticism. And she thinks women should just stop playing the victim.
She thinks personally attacking a rival female politician is a legitimate ploy. She seems to love exercising the most ineffectual displays of power – chastising ambassadors and banging gavels and riding on the coat tails of the big boys and girls achieving what???? Photo opportunities? I mean seriously…how come the tv cameras were there to catch the arrival of the Chinese ambassador and the press already had the story of what Julie would say to him in very stern tones?
Julie dresses well but window dressing is all I have seen so far.
Kaye
Living the dream : she dresses well because we pay her wardrobe allowance.
The whole thing looks pretty ugly to me. Julie Bishop and the Empathy Deficit.
Great advertisement for a potential leader.
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/comment/julie-bishop-and-the-empathy-deficit-20141219-12ajf5.html
Wanker is neither masculine nor feminine. A plonker is someone addicted to imbibing red wine. I am not sure that this disqualifies julie bish-plop in either case!
To keerti ……….. ( and Lawrencewinder )
I had to look up ‘plonker’ on the Net …. and it has a myriad of meanings. ……. so perhaps a female wanker is not – in fact – a plonker. !!! ,,,,, ( Lawrencewinder December 19, 2014 at 9:26 pm )
Not that you Keerti, have said so .. .. another couple of posts did though. !!! ,,,,,,,, Plonker apparently means :
1) ……. a foolish or inept person.
2) ……. dope, idiot, moron, wally, pillock, dunderhead, dimwit
3) ……. to slap something down; to plop something down
4) ……. to sit or lie down on something in a careless or noisy way
5) ……. By 1966, the term had also acquired the meaning of a man who let his girlfriend sleep with his male friends. ( British interpretation. )
6) …… a stupid person, especially a man
Not to mention someone who gets on the ‘plonk’ and gets absolutely plastered / pissed to the eyeballs.
These are from various dictionaries, including those of good repute.
i am in NO WAY in Julie Bishop’s corner – I frankly think she’s a bitch.
But ‘wanker’ or ‘plonker’ is entirely her own concern – in the privacy of her own quarters – where-ever in the world that may be – at any given time !!!!!!!
Just sayin’ ………..
Look at me darling. Who’s important now? What a waste of space.
Ok, yes it seems a bit of pot-kettle-black here (Julie Bishop telling Julia Gillard off for appearing in fashion mags)… but her saying that she doesn’t need the label of “feminist”, just get on and prove them all wrong; don’t see yourself as a victim as that is a downward spiral… hell isn’t that what the feminist movement was all about; refusing to be a victim anymore?… just a different expression… is it what she stands for that you don’t like, or that she claims feminisim is no longer required, women are strong enough to be who they want to be and not be defined by a label anymore?
I’m a bloke, I guess I’ll never get it.
To CommonA …….
Bishop denies she is feminist, and I honestly think it’s because she does not want to associate or be seen to be associated with any group, or cause, or movement, or simply just ‘other women’.
She is the top dog ( sorry that’s bitch in dog terms ) ….. and would not ‘ lower herself ‘ ….. which I believe she would think she was doing if she admitted to being feminist.
……. No offence intended towards feminism with those remarks……
She strikes me as a person who believes she is above all that – – – actually above EVERYTHING – in her own mind.
Definitely a diva tart.
Feminism is the advocacy of women’s rights so I guess Julie is right when she says she is not a feminist. She is too busy “living the dream” to worry about that sort of ‘nonsense’. I’m not sure that TELLING people not to be a victim does anything to help the situation of the millions of women around the world who ARE victims. Considering the domestic violence situation in Australia it is insensitive to tell women to “stop whingeing”. Considering the pay inequality and rising unemployment and the number of women living in poverty telling us to “just get on with it” is hardly helpful. Considering the plight of women around the world, slashing foreign aid means we just don’t care.
“Cuts to foreign aid have sparked fears among aid agencies that Australia will return to “truck and chuck” operations to the detriment of women who live in some of the world’s worst hotspots for physical and sexual abuse.
The funding reduction comes after Foreign Minister Julie Bishop declared in a speech last June that empowering women and girls in our region was a “personal passion” and was perhaps the nation’s “most important priority” in terms of aid.
Historically women wear the brunt of poverty, are the worst affected by humanitarian disasters, are much more vulnerable than men in times of crisis, and are marginalised when it comes to economic decision making.
“We know that in Pacific countries the rates of violence against women are in fact the highest in the world. Up to 68 per cent of Pacific women report physical or sexual abuse.”
That “living the dream” comment sums up this government in my opinion. They are all about personal ambition. They do not see themselves as public servants but overlords strutting their stuff as they go to lavish dinners and have their photos taken with the high fliers.
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Yep !
Bishop (the younger) is "living the dream" …. to be one of the boys.
While at the same time ensuring she doesn’t have to share the spotlight with any other woman.
Damn if only I had one of those dangly things between my legs.
Joke for the purists!
Kaye Lee:
On behalf of my 21yo daughter… an avid feminist… I object!!! Feminism is the advocacy of women’s rights, but not to the detriment of men’s rights. Despite what the frightened patriarchs would have us believe, it’s not a zero-sum game.
Definition of FEMINISM
1: the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes
2: organized activity on behalf of women’s rights and interests
— fem·i·nist noun or adjective
— fem·i·nis·tic adjective
Julie Bishop is a fraud and a poor excuse for a woman, she is right she is not a feminist because I have never known her to advocate for anyone only criminals as a lawyer, so we have one woman in parliament that thinks she is the only woman in the world, and stuff all the rest of the woman in the world, she is living the dream and making sure poor countries are having their aid slashed like never before
She will be living the nightmare soon, what goes up must come down, and she will hit the ground with a thud because wearing expensive clothes in a heavily photo shopped magazine will not help her become a better person, she can clean up her image all she likes, she will always be known as Asbestos Julie, or Princess Mesothelioma which is her other recognized career in this country
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/comment/julie-bishop-and-the-empathy-deficit-20141219-12ajf5.html
Feminism should never be to the detriment of men’s rights. In fact feminism has had positive benefits for men.
Female participation in the workforce has added a huge boost to the economy. It has allowed fathers to spend more time with their children. It has challenged gender stereotypes. It has made sex more enjoyable and lessened the chance of unwanted pregnancies. Men do not have to adopt the sole responsibility of being the breadwinner. It has shed light on domestic violence including that perpetrated against men. It has led to male rape being recognised. It has empowered the LGBT community. It is about equal opportunity and safety, not dominance.
@Kaye Lee…
At my workplace, I am surrounded entirely by middle-class, high-school educated, middle-aged men. You can’t begin to imagine the comments I hear about femisnists…. AND minority groups. On some particularly bad days, it feels like it’s destroying my soul.
BTW… almost ALL of these men have daughters…
mars08,
Not only can I imagine what you hear…I have heard it all before. In 1975 I won the Lion Club’s Youth of the Year public speaking award for my district by pointing out the gender bias and discrimination in their own competition where they graciously allowed me to enter but the highest placed boy would go on to represent the district at the state level. It happened to be the first International Women’s Year so the topic of my speech was a gimme under the circumstances.
I also went to university with Tony Abbott and you could not have found a more bullying misogynistic group than his little band of followers.
I was labelled a communist pot-smoking lesbian by them….too funny. They were so fearful of homosexuals and assertive women that it was hard not to laugh at them. I have to admit I dismissed Tony Abbott at the time as inconsequential. That is why I am still in a state of shock that he is our Prime Minister.
I also know what it feels like when you are banned from places like snooker rooms and public bars. I may not want to go there but I will fight for my right to make that decision.
I know what it is like to get knocked back for a loan when you and your partner are both in full-time employment with no debt but you are married and of child-bearing age so they won’t count your income.
We have come a long way in this country but we still have a long way to go to be able to say all people in the world are accorded basic human rights.
““Challenge” John? I know hypocrisy seems to be the hallmark of this government, but could they really get away with “assassinating” a first term PM?”
– I don’t think they need to – he seems to be doing a perfectly good job of that himself.
As to Bishop – eee gads – looks like a wedding dress on a cockroach! I’d insult her, but God got in first.
I have also done a lot of jobs in my life including waitressing and barmaiding.
When I was propositioned (in a particularly graphic distasteful way) by an executive of a big company when serving dinner at their Christmas Party, I complained to my boss who complained to his boss who sacked the guy. I felt kinda sorry for him but “the standards you walk past are the standards you accept.”
Barmaiding was also a continual battleground though having the power of both the taps and the TAB gave me the upper hand. The regulars learned the standard I expected but I had to tolerate crap from the owner’s velour clad mates. I quit when they told me they were having lingerie evenings where I would have to serve these people wearing skimpy pyjamas. I mean seriously…
One of my part-time jobs at university was as a bookmaker’s clerk at Harold Park trots. I was the only female clerk in the ring and I did the payouts. I had to tolerate punters asking the male bagman, who did not have the book, to verify my calculations. To my workmates’ credit, they would reply “Whatever the lady said”.
Isn’t it sad that forty years later I am having the same conversation.
@Kaye Lee…
I didn’t mean to imply that you’d escaped the consequences of the narrow-minded foolishness I hear every day. I just assumed that you’d not heard it first hand. The sense of victimhood from these members of the dominant/privileged social group is staggering.
These blokes I work with seem to be much worse than they were a decade ago. I says “seem”… Maybe they ARE more vocal, maybe they ARE grumpier than they were, maybe self-serving bastards like Brandis have given them free rein. Or maybe my tolerance for stupidity and willful ignorance is lower than it ever was.
“I know what it is like to get knocked back for a loan when you and your partner are both in full-time employment with no debt but you are married and of child-bearing age so they won’t count your income.”
That much at least has changed Kaye – my daughter was trying to get a loan earlier in the year – she’d saved a deposit but couldn’t borrow enough by herself to buy the level of house she wanted. (She works in childcare so isn’t on a great wage). With a little bit of rearranging of her partner’s debts, she was able to secure a joint loan and they are now living in their own home. Dad still has to go over and help with the garden this afternoon though 😉
The basis of the loan was her savings and income though, not her partner’s – his just bumped up the amount they could borrow to where she wanted to be. It probably helps that childcare is more available these days – when she has a child, I think she can get 4 days of long daycare subsidised, leaving only one other day to worry about.
Chalk up one to the feminists Bacchus 😉
Pickering Plagiarism #7 ~ A Xmas Wish!
You guys might like this pic of JB, the Wicked Witch from the West.
Will the real Julie Bishop please stand up? Thank you.
Kaye
I was labelled a communist pot-smoking lesbian by them….too funny
OK I don’t buy the commo and lemon tag but did they get the pot smoking bit right? LOL
Kaye Lee, you stated; “Historically women wear the brunt of poverty, are the worst affected by humanitarian disasters, are much more vulnerable than men in times of crisis”… I don’t doubt that is true in many, if not most cases… but here is a documented disaster in the early days of feminism:
http://www.anesi.com/titanic.htm
These days, I would expect the survival rates for the men and women to be of a similar percentage (any objections?). Sometimes I think in the race to be treated equal with men, something was lost…. Women are better than that…. The problem is the men who don’t think so.
Other than that (somewhat puerile) observation, excellent comments everyone, thank you, I read them all, and appreciate your efforts.
Let’s agree to put the children in the life rafts, figuratively, not literally as Scott does…drag them out to sea and wave goodbye. He has passed the ball to Dutton to deal with the mental and physical heath issues for asylum seekers and the might of the UN, Amnesty International, Human Rights Commission, Save the children, International courts, and anyone who gives a damn about us indefinitely locking up innocent people or bribing poor nations to take them and then swashing our hands of any responsibility – now that’s what we refer to as a hospital pass.
603,000 or 17.7% of all children are living in poverty in Australia. Let’s start there Scott before you talk about cutting anything or charging more for things.
Over 105,000 Australians are homeless every night and it is on the rise due to a severe shortage of affordable housing. A Senate inquiry was told…
“Low income earners are being priced out of the private rental market at an alarming rate and social housing options are shrinking.
The social and economic costs of not acting on the affordable housing crisis are high and will be prolonged if action is not urgently taken to make sure every Australian household has access to a safe and affordable home.
If we act now to increase the supply of affordable housing options and prevent more people falling into homelessness we can make significant economic and social gains in health, justice, education and welfare sectors. This will provide benefits to those currently affected but also to the next generation and beyond,”
What’s your plan for that Scott considering you cut $44 million from the capital works budget for the National Partnership on Homelessness?
There’s less money to be spent on building houses, homes for people who don’t have them, for women and children escaping violence, for people who are living on the street
“Julia….I miss you!”
Great post, Kaye! Judging by comments above, you evoked fond memories of FPMJG in the hearts of many of your readers. I too am glad of the chance to take myself back to happier days when our Julia was doing such a great job. I haven’t wanted to waste time writing about JB, though I guess it needs to be done. Meanwhile I prefer to think about
JULIA!
J is for Julia and the Joy she gave.
U is for Us, so Useless to save
Labor while staying Loyal to her,
In spite of our Instinct that never
Again could we Australians be so proud of our name.
https://polliepomes.wordpress.com/2013/07/27/julia-2/
Kaye, Thank you so much, I have wondered for years what Bishop reminded me of, and you have hit the nail on the head ‘A Harpy!’
There is a photograph of the ‘real’ JB – taken when out morning running. I cannot include it here unfortunately, but will do so on my FB page – it decidedly shows her age, and without make up – she’s a bit of a mess, frankly. Hope my FB page works : https://www.facebook.com/annie.byam
Many of you might have already seen this photo of her … will leave it there for a short while, unless FB objects and takes it away ( which could happen ).
She is a show pony, centre stage diva in every respect. No harm in looking good, but she soooo overdoes it, especially when out and about in evening gowns which must cost the bloody earth.
Yep, I am being a bitch myself in posting this – but it does go to show what is underneath, and I don’t believe its been photo-shopped. A total opposite to the photograph by and on “WHO” at the top of this article.