Untold Stories – Australians’ shocking confessions on The Voice
SNAP-POLL Media Release
“Making the Invisible, Visible”
Explosive Independent Community Poll Uncovers the WHY Behind Australians’ Referendum Votes. SNAP-POLL Sheds light on Unfiltered Sentiments for Historic Referendum.
Melbourne, 6 October 2023 – SNAP-POLL had a conversation with over 1000+ Australians, commenced on Friday 22 Sept.
Mark Stewart (son of 1960 Fitzroy VFL champion Charlie Stewart) of Wemba Wemba and Yorta Yorta people:
“SNAP-POLL has uncovered the raw opinions of Australian’s on this very important referendum for my people.
These results show some informed and some misguided points.
I urge every Australian to please take the time to educate themselves on what The Voice to Parliament really is and what it’s striving for, before you make your decision on October 14, 2023.”
SNAP-SHOT
Here’s what Australians told us:
Females:
35% say ‘First Nation Peoples should have a say in their future’
32.9% say ‘The Voice creates division’
29.8% are Labor voters
20% are Liberal Voters
Males:
41.4% say ‘The Voice creates division’
21.7% say ‘First Nation Peoples should have a say in their future’
26.8% are Liberal voters
19.5% Labor voters
SNAP-POLL asked, “What would you like to say about the conversation we are having?” – here’s a snippet of what they had to say:
“It’s rubbish I am an Indigenous man who has been thru the cultural lores of my people and I believe that the government is tricking my people and the rest of Australia by getting them to vote yes and they will just become like any other Australians who don’t qualify for preferential treatment and will become worse off and financially ruined even further.”
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“I am saddened by the division, this could have been a great moment to come together.”
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“It’s a giant waste of tax money that could be spent on fixing the real issues effecting Indigenous in remote communities. The voice will only divide the nation forever. It’s a racist proposal that I will hold against Labor for as long as I live.”
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“I think this has been blown out of perspective and there is nothing wrong with a broader perspective or point of views prior to making a decision.”
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“It is more important for First Nations’ People – they have been here for 60000 years and non-Indigenous people only 235 years – we couldn’t recognise them in our Constitution in 1901 because we were a full-on racist country then. Since 1788, we have displaced them from their lands, stolen their children in an effort to wipe out the Aboriginal people and murdered over 100,000 (using fellow Native Police). Most nations in the world have been mature enough to have treaties with their first nations’ peoples but Australians – nah (and it looks like “No” will be the majority) – we are too immature and unfortunately too large a percentage is still very racist. Of course, the No campaign leaders are opposing purely on politics not on the reasons they have conned the Australian public with. Dutton and the Murdochs are shitty because Labor is in power all over Australia (except Tassie) and they want a victory, so they were always going to oppose the referendum just for a political victory. They couldn’t give a toss about the wishes of the Aboriginal people. I will be very ashamed of being an Australian if the “No” vote is successful.”
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“I’m devastated people are advocating for no. I’m upset by the conversation, and I fully believe people who vote no ARE racist. There’s no good reason to vote no. I’m embarrassed to think the vote won’t result in much needed change.”
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“I don’t like it, waste of taxpayers’ money. Even the Aboriginals do not want it. Stop living in the past. We have said sorry a billion times. Let it lie, let the country heal and stop making the divide any bigger than it is now.”
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“The conversation is totally uninformative and biased towards the YES vote due to Government backing. The truth has not emerged, and is unlikely to do so, due to the restriction on information release by the Federal Labor Government. We are being asked to choose a door without any idea of what lies behind them. The hate and enmity that is inherent within this amendment makes me scared of what may happen if it is passed.”
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“Whilst I agree that Indigenous Australians should have an input, having it through the constitution is not the way to do it. There is also not enough information about how the Voice will operate. I will not sign a blank cheque, nor would I blindly say yes to something that we don’t know anything about.”
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“We don’t need a voice to achieve constitutional recognition. It’s a trojan horse and divisive.”
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“It is dividing Australia, families and friends. It is causing racial bias and fear at a time when we should reconcile and not be scared of having a very small population group get special voices and possibly special treatment over all other Australians. If an Aboriginal born in 2000 should be part of a group with a special voice to parliament, why shouldn’t English migrant children also born in Australia in 2000 have a special English migrant voice, and Italians, and Croations, and Vietnamese, and Afghanis, and Chinese. Why dont we have a special voice for everyone whose culture suffered hardship. In fact, here is an idea WHY DONT WE JUST OFFER EQUAL TREATMENT TO EVERYONE REGARDLESS OF WHO THEY ARE AND WHERE THEY COME FROM. No “Special” voice for anyone, but yes to a “Special Voice to EVERY SINGLE AUSTRALIAN CITIZEN.”
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“I cannot understand the No campaigners. We like to think we are a civilised country, we are not if we do not honour our Indigenous people, the oldest civilisation in the world.”
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“if you don’t know, vote no” is the worst possible piece of advice – how about “if you don’t know, find out”? There is so much information out there. People who want to vote no should check out who else votes no: Pauline Hanson and Neo-Nazis, not to mention Peter Dutton. If nothing else, that’s a compelling argument to vote YES!”
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“Unhappy about the current one-sided conversation mainstream media is shoving down the ‘sheeples’ throats, a balanced conversation needs to be had however people need to go looking for the reasons against the Voice to Parliament to make an informed choice and it’s hidden away because mainstream media is only presenting the ‘Yes’ agenda as the way forward. There are too many unknowns as to how the Voice to Parliament will function and the government is saying ‘just vote Yes and we will take care of the rest’ – exactly why my vote will be a No because even if it is ultimately good for the country, I don’t trust any government to ‘work it out’ for me?”
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“Any conversation is better than none.”
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“Typically, a few get to make choices for a majority. First Nations people in outback regions seem to be very unaware of what is happening with this referendum, so until every Australian has been given the correct information, I will vote no. I was brought up to respect all people regardless of race colour or religion. I cannot be held responsible for the past actions of my ancestors, I do feel disgusted for what was done, however, the exact same actions are taking place all over the world even today. When will the human race learn.”
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“I think it’s really sad that people are going to vote no. I worry about how we will feel as a people after the vote. I don’t understand why there isnt more advertising to promote the yes vote.”
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John Hanna
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Kerri
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Wam
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New England Cocky
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Uta Hannemann
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Teiresias
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Teiresias
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Kerri
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Terence Mills
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Return to home pageI note that the mad monk TA and Howard were out there advocating for the NO vote just to cruel the NT labor pitch…that is enough in isolation for me to vote resoundingly YES
“….. why shouldn’t English migrant children also born in Australia in 2000 have a special English migrant voice, and Italians, and Croations, and Vietnamese, and Afghanis, and Chinese.”
It disturbs me that people who think Indigenous Australians are migrant should be fit to vote on anything!
Labor has ignored KISS and the the fact that the constitution gives the federal government and the 8 second tier parliaments the right to make laws for Aboriginal people ONLY. The voice completes the constitution by ensuring that Aboriginal people have a mechanism to provide advice on the laws that apply to them only. Such advice has been missing from the 122 years of laws that have usually been unsuccessful in achieving their targets.
Sadly, there are some friends who will vote no but they also voted no in the same sex marriage and their reasons show that they are just anti-Aboriginal people and don’t give a shit about closing the gap as Aborigines are not capable.
I consider there are only 45% who fit the too dumb and racist cohort so the referendum should succeed and will succeed if Labor KISS.
The COALition power brokers must be getting anxious when they roll out the most destructive LIARBRAL policy makers since 1996.
This Independent Community Poll shows interesting statements by various Australians. It is very sad, that a lot of racism still exists, and that a lot of people do not bother to find out what is a lie. Why do so many people believe, that too much is already being done for aboriginal lives? However, with the money that is constantly spent on First Nations’ People, with proper information and consultation better things could be achieved! If politicians were willing to listen to the Voice, all this aid money could be spent in a better way to achieve much better results. I like the following comment: “It is more important for First Nations’ People – they have been here for 60000 years and non-Indigenous people only 235 years – we couldn’t recognise them in our Constitution in 1901 because we were a full-on racist country then. Since 1788, we have displaced them from their lands, stolen their children in an effort to wipe out the Aboriginal people and murdered over 100,000 (using fellow Native Police). Most nations in the world have been mature enough to have treaties with their first nations’ peoples but Australians – nah (and it looks like “No” will be the majority) – we are too immature and unfortunately too large a percentage is still very racist. Of course, the No campaign leaders are opposing purely on politics not on the reasons they have conned the Australian public with. Dutton and the Murdochs are shitty because Labor is in power all over Australia (except Tassie) and they want a victory, so they were always going to oppose the referendum just for a political victory. They couldn’t give a toss about the wishes of the Aboriginal people. I will be very ashamed of being an Australian if the “No” vote is successful.”
This SNAP-POLL Media Release is from a conversation with over 1000 people in Melbourne, 22 Sep – 6 Oct, 2023
As the heading tells us, these are often “shocking confessions on The Voice.” Why is that? Why are they “shocking?” I will show just a few.
1. “a giant waste of tax money”
Tax money is already being paid to Aboriginal people, and sometimes not enough. The Voice would be able to achieve positive outcomes in education, health, justice and housing for Aboriginal people. (The Voice to Parliament Handbook, p.68) Who else gets paid tax money?
2, “murdered over 100,000 people (using Native Police)
More than 100,000! Jared Diamond in “Guns, Germs and Steel” tells us that in 1788 the Indigenous population was
somewhere between 750,000 and one million and after 140 years of occupation the Indigenous population had collapsed to about 6-8% of 1788 levels, or to a mere 60,000.
3, “even Aboriginal people do not want it”
But many do, because the Voice is for them. See 2. above. And see figures about short lives, stolen children, illnesses, children in gaol, lack of education…
4,”I will not sign a blank cheque, nor would I blindly say yes to something we don’t know anything about.”
Find out what you do not know. “mainstream media is only presenting the ‘Yes’ agenda as the way forward.”
That cannot be right. Most media in Australia is Right wing. And they also have 275 pages of Letter from Uluru just as Labor has. But the Coalition does not want to talk about it because they want Labor to fail so Dutton can bring in the Voice at the next election. Fat chance. ^,
“I will vote NO…I do feel disgusted for what was done, however, the exact same actions are taking place all over the world even today.”
So why not vote Yes when you know what has happened to people who were the First Nations People of Australia 65,000 years ago and were nearly wiped out in 140 years after the British arrived here.
What is the reason for this lack of understanding? Is it our education system? Our mucky politics driven by mucky Right Wing Media? Greed? Selfishness?
One reason for the lack of understanding shown in this Snap-Poll Media release is the fact that only a few over 1000 people were questioned in Melbourne. It is not a big number, is it?
And we know there are Coalition people who are voting YES.
Greg Craven is angry with the No people because they have put his comments on “parking fines and submarines” in the No campaign pages of the Referendum Booklet- but he is going to vote Yes.
I have seen many people on parade for the Yes campaign – and in my neighbourhood are many Yes signs.
I have heard people talking about Aboriginal tax – and about losing backyards to Aboriginal people.
Jacunta Price thinks that in early years in Australia British people did no harm to Aboriginal people!
Such is life.
#Teiresias
Jacinta Price’s father is of Celtic heritage.
Some degree of bias?
The Yukimukifuki Country will soon speak, possibly a stream of brownbowelburst brainlessness, as in the “lost election” of Shorten, when in fact, dumb, deluded, devious, dippy drongo, dull Voters made a coalition of idiocy to support Morrison the maniac multiministerial minder. Wasn’t that lucky? We got the village idiot umpteen times, over and over, with a filthy foreign freaky frankfurt frisking fool in media maggoting to assist. It can be excruciatingly horrible to contemplate the results of hateful idiocy.., but…nobody a few decades ago could have foreseen, predicted, imagined, a streak of horrible misfit egodeficient egopolishers as Abbott, Morrison, Boris Jockstrap, Trump, plus Erdogan, Meloni, Bolsonaro Bullshitismo, and others in Europe and small farflung places. Madness.
Kerri/Teiresias
Jacinta Price describes herself as a “Warlpiri-Celtic woman” reflecting the heritage of her mother and her father. Just as I would describe myself as an anglo-celtic-Australian man if I thought my heritage a necessary factor in describing the content of my character – which I don’t.
Senator Lidia Thorpe describes herself as being of English, Irish, DjabWurrung, Gunnai and Gunditjmara descent with a white father.
In the build-up to the referendum there has, in some urban communities you don’t see it in the regions so much, arisen a need to spell out heritage particularly where it may have some even tenuous Aboriginal connection. Genealogists would call this a need for identity others would call it racial profiling.
Race is a very unhelpful and sometimes negative tool for describing people when it is the content of their character that we are identifying. Hopefully this latest manifestation will only be temporary; best in my view that we all recognise that we are at heart Australians.
Martin Luther King made the point well :
“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”
‘Not sure that it has worked out too well so far !
Teiresias
The problem is not that the poll only included 1000 people, but rather which 1000 people it included. If a representative sample 1000 Australians were polled, then we know that the results have margins of error of around +/- 3%. As SNAP Poll have not published any information here about their sampling or whether they have weighted their data to known population parameters, and it seems from their website that it is a self selecting ‘community’ panel, then it doesn’t matter whether they have polled 10 or 100 or 1000 people – the data is not an estimate of anything, but merely a summary of the opinions of the members of their panel.