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The truth behind the Abbott ‘lie’

Do you remember this story from February 1?

Tony Abbott has reportedly held a private meeting with US President Barack Obama in Washington.

The former prime minister also held secret talks with the president’s spy chief, News Corp reported on Monday, noting that the meetings could irk Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull.

Mr Abbott and Mr Obama met at an exclusive banquet on Saturday night, with sources saying the two had a very warm and intimate discussion.

Well we all know now that it was a gigantic News Corp beat up, as exposed by Fairfax Media.

But what we never found out was who would ‘leak’ such a load of rubbish to the Murdoch Media in the first place.

Until now.

Many of you may already know the answer to this, but for those who don’t, spend a few enlightening minutes in front of this clip from last Monday’s ABC Media Watch about the story, and all will be revealed.

The ‘suspect’ may not surprise you, but it may disgust you.

It makes you wonder about their sources and the validity of their stories if this is their modus operandi.


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  1. Backyard Bob

    Typical Murdoch slime-fest. Shared the Media Watch link on Twitter.

  2. Michael Taylor

    Thanks for that, Bob. The word certainly needs to be spread. Journalistic integrity of the Murdoch media took yet a further dive.

  3. Backyard Bob

    That’s cool. I love Media Watch. The point you raise at the end of the article is key. How much faith can we place in the stories that appear in News Corp publications, based on this rather extraordinary example. Not much it seems. This sort of thing really ought to sound the death knell for News Corp’s reputation, but it probably won’t.

  4. Michael Taylor

    I don’t even believe the footy scores if I saw them in the Murdoch media.

  5. Carol Taylor

    Typical Abbott, if he can’t be popular, he’ll send in a press release espousing his own virtues..sigh…

  6. my say

    This really proves how dumb Abbott is

  7. stephengb2014

    As I have said a number of times, I honestly believe the man is mentally deranged.

    I have no qualification to believe such a thing but honestly no one could believe his bizarre behavior and chronic misuse of the truth, of which it must be cause for concern by his family, if not his friends.
    God knows what message he is giving his children, they have a chronic public liar as a father role model !

  8. Keith

    It is not surprising that readership is going South. The Telegraph is the absolute pits demonstrated at the last election with disgusting front pages.

  9. Miriam English

    Abbott and Murdoch still chronic liars, I see.
    Much changes in the world, but not that.

  10. David (other)

    Michael your closing comment..”It makes you wonder about their sources and the validity of their stories if this is their modus operandi.” was surely tongue in cheek? Of course it was, we have had years of this sewer rags purpose in life, Benson is as snug as a buggered bug working within its dirty confines.

    What has been made clear yet again by that absurd pack of lies in the Tele story, Turnbull is surrounded by the Abbott fan club and the arrival of his new Deputy PM and his Deputy, reinforces the Abbott assault weapon.
    When the going gets tough, can anyone see the likes of Dam Tehan for example, rush to Turnbull’s side, when Dan has just realised his dream of dreams, not wet this time, of becoming a fully fledged ‘look mummy I did it I did it’. Cabinet Minister.

    Anthony Lazarus Abbott, may be wrapped in the death shroud for now, but God help us if Turnbull wins the election, the original Lazarus coming forth will be but a shadow of the 2nd coming.

  11. paul walter

    This was one of two feature stories on last week’s Media Watch that had me absolutely grinding my teeth, the other being the story about efforts to try and trim back the surveillance laws, just a weeny bit, in relation to investigative journalism and journalists.

    A normal person may not like what they see in the real world but they don’t then blind themselves so as to avoid seeing, so why does a society do it?

    You trip over a hole, but blinding yourself so you don’t see the hole and trip into it again, doesn’t really make the hole go away, just makes it more dangerous…

  12. paul walter

    Which reminds me. If you welcome an adult take on media, the other outstanding source for me would be the Amanda Meade columns at the Grauniad, they are worldly, acute, funny and sad at the same time. This writer deftly welds a sharp scalpel , sometimes to devastating effect.

  13. lance

    It used to work something like this back in the Credlin days –
    -Peta would express Tony’s talking and policy points wish list to all the Murdoch toady cowtowin’ jackboot lockstep opinion writers that day or morning —

    Writing the same Credlin produced expressed notes -not in the same Syntax but definately holding the core conservative Murdoch Think Tank daily rants 24/7

    it was organised something like Alan Jones would ring Akerman -and that rant would be picked up by Bolt
    who would put it up and out there for his red neck audience –
    -who would call Ray Hadley -who would inadvertently through his ignorance make it his main talking point for the day

    –which would be talked About and written up as news by Miranda Divine and Janet Albrechtsen on sky news that night or throughout the day –and anyone who saw through what was going on through the Prime Minister’s and Credlin’s dirty tricks department was derided and maligned by Henderson or Sheriden because of the rest of the Media’s Pagan’s lack of faith for the Murdoch loverboy and hand puppet Abbott.

  14. johnlward010

    The armed forces and the secret services of a democracy must at all times be transparent, accountable, controlled and supervised closely by civilian representatives of the people as they represent the most powerful instruments of the state.

    This clash between mandatory secrecy and mandatory transparency directly points to the most general question of how much secrecy should be granted to the executive branch of a democracy. The evidence gained from present day Syria and Iraq; a lack of transparency and accountability has lead to corruption, abuse and terror, the answer is clear:
    “The executive should be granted no secrecy and should at all times be controlled by the legislative. For a secret government, can lead to abuse and even state terrorism. The growth of Intelligence abuses reflects a more general failure of our basic institutions”, US Senator Frank Church had wisely noted after a detailed investigation of CIA covert operations already in the 1970s.

    Running a secret army and funding an unaccountable intelligence service entails grave risks every democracy should seek to avoid. For the risks do not only include uncontrolled violence against groups of citizens but mass manipulation of entire countries or continents.

    In Germany a TV programme shocked the nation by revealing how former members of Hitler’s Special Forces SS had been part of a German stay-behind network. The Belgian Parliament appointed a special committee to investigate the existence – confirmed by the defence minister – of a Belgian Gladio network.

    Most sensitively the Belgian parliamentarians discovered that the secret NATO army was still active. They found that a secret meeting of Generals directing the secret stay-behind armies in the numerous countries in Western Europe had been held in the secret NATO-linked Gladio headquarters ACC as recently as October 23 and 24, 1990. The meeting of the ACC had taken place in Brussels under the chairmanship of General Raymond Van Calster, chief of the Belgian military secret service SGR (Service General de Renseignement).

    1990 prime minister Andreotti confirmed to parliament the existence of the Gladio networks but claimed they had ceased operating in 1972. This was subsequently revealed to be false by the Italian press. Andreotti then admitted the existence of the Gladio networks and their connection to NATO.

    The secret Gladio army, as Andreotti revealed, was well armed. The equipment provided by the CIA was buried in 139 hiding spots across the country in forests, meadows and even under churches and cemeteries. Andreotti’s sensational testimony did not only lead to an outcry concerning the corruption of the government and the CIA among the press and the population, but also to a hunt for the secret arms caches.

    The Strategy of TensionDuring his trial, Vincenzo Vinciguerra revealed that, in addition to discrediting left wing political groups, there had been a second, the even darker aim behind the bombings, namely to inculcate a climate of fear among the general populace. This was known as the ‘strategy of tension’ which was intended to generate a pervasive sense of fear which would encourage the population to appeal to the state for protection.

    ‘You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple. They were supposed to force these people, the Italian public to turn to the State to ask for greater security.’

    Andreotti denied the claim of Vinciguerra that the Gladio armies had been involved in the domestic terrorism the country had witnessed. Despite that, a parliamentary commission in 2000 investigating Gladio explicitly rejected his denial and concluded to the contrary:

    ‘Those massacres, those bombs, those military actions had been organised or promoted or supported by men inside Italian state institutions and, as has been discovered more recently, by men linked to the structures of United States intelligence.’

    The destructive spiral of manipulation, fear and violence did not end with the fall of the Soviet Union and the discovery of the secret armies in 1990, but, on the contrary, gained momentum. Ever since the vicious terrorist attacks on the population of the United States on September 11, 2001, and the beginning of the ‘War on Terrorism’ fear and violence dominate not only the headlines across the globe but also the consciousness of millions. In the West the ‘evil Communist’ of the Cold War era has swiftly been replaced with the ‘evil Islamist’ of the war on terrorism era. With almost 3,000 civilians killed on September 11, and several thousand killed in the US-led war on terrorism so far with no end in sight, a new level of brutality has been reached.

    Yet human security is not advanced, but, on the contrary, decayed, as the atmosphere is filled with manipulation, violence and fear. Where the manipulation and the violence originate from and where they lead to, is at times very difficult to dissect. Hitler and the Nazis had profited greatly from manipulation and the fear in the wake of the mysterious Reichstag fire in Berlin in 1933, whereupon the Third Reich and Second World War followed.

    The Australia we once knew is gone; gone, since the Tampa, children overboard affair and 9/11, we have been lied to, manipulated and become more fearful at the hands of neoconservatives led by John Howard. The SAS has been used a ‘private army/police force’ by the executive beginning with Tampa.

    During 2002, on the pretext of shielding the Australian people from terrorism, the Howard government has introduced legislation that arguably undermines fundamental democratic rights, including freedom of speech and political association and freedom from arbitrary detention. A package of ‘counter-terrorism’ legislation has handed unprecedented powers to the executive government and the intelligence and police agencies. The measures have introduced sweeping definitions of terrorism and treason, both now punishable by life imprisonment, which could outlaw many forms of political protest and industrial action.
    The legislation contains powers to proscribe organisations, freeze their funds and gaol their members for alleged support of ‘terrorism’. In addition, it reverses the burden of proof for a range of serious offences, effectively requiring defendants to prove their innocence. One part of the legislative package, which would authorise the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation (ASIO) to detain people in police custody without charge and interrogate them incommunicado, without access to legal advice, was referred to a Senate committee by the opposition parties in October 2002.

    See Michael Head, ‘The Military Call-Out Legislation — Some Legal and Constitutional Questions’ (2001) 29 Federal Law Review 273;

    The generation that defended the Empire in world war two, thought they were risking their lives to prevent the spread of Nazism; yet here is our government involved in a spiral of lies, deceits and secrecy that would seem to be a neoconservative drive to totally control our democracy by
    restricting freedoms and removing rights we hold dear. This generation does not seem to sense the danger creeping up on it.

    An excerpt from They Thought They Were Free – The Germans, 1933-45 by Milton Mayer
    ‘What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could understand it, it could not be released because of national security. And their sense of identification with Hitler, their trust in him, made it easier to widen this gap and reassured those who would otherwise have worried about it.

    How is this to be avoided, among ordinary men, even highly educated ordinary men? Frankly, I do not know. I do not see, even now. Many, many times since it all happened I have pondered that pair of great maxims, Principiis obsta and Finem respice—‘Resist the beginnings’ and ‘Consider the end.’ But one must foresee the end in order to resist, or even see, the beginnings. One must foresee the end clearly and certainly and how is this to be done, by ordinary men or even by extraordinary men? Things might have. And everyone counts on that might.
    Suddenly it all comes down, all at once. You see what you are, what you have done, or, more accurately, what you haven’t done (for that was all that was required for most of us: that we do nothing). You remember those early meetings of your department in the university when, if one had stood, others would have stood, perhaps, but no one stood. A small matter, a matter of hiring this man or that, and you hired this one rather than that. You remember everything now, and your heart breaks. Too late. You are compromised beyond repair’.

    Over the past 15 years, we have been led by the nose from crisis to crisis and living in vague fear of Muslim extremists while the government is less transparent and distant from the electorate.
    We have met the enemy and he is us.

  15. Terry2

    Malcolm Farr appears to be the only journalist in the News Corp camp who sees that the former emperor still has no clothes : he said this – tongue firmly in cheek – of the supposed warm and intimate Abbott/Obama meeting :

    “The Abbott version appeared in news reports of a private, “very warm and intimate” meeting between Mr Abbott and US President Barack Obama in Washington.
    The sources encouraged the perception that Mr Obama and other senior US figures were keen to consult Mr Abbott on international affairs — as if he were still a head of government.
    The suggestion was he was given the access Mr Turnbull was granted during an official visit just a few weeks before.
    It was a classic name dropping exercise to prop up a political reputation.
    The clear intention of the quotes was to argue that while Mr Turnbull had the job, Mr Abbott had the credentials.”

    That’s about as far as News Corp go when it comes to exposing hypocrisy.

  16. paul walter

    Yes, Terry2, it struck me as anomolous that it would be warm and intimate.

    Abbott, on a visit to the USA, made a point of making trouble for Obama with Tea Party politicians. Obama, for his part, held his peace until the G20 in QLD last year, clubbing Abbott with the celebrated comment about conserving the Great Barrier Reef while Abbott and co trumpeted the aptly named Abbot point facility that so added to the threat to the reef. To me that was a definitive moment in the collapse of Abbott’s political career.

  17. Ian Sprocket Muncher Parfrey

    I really couldn’t give a flying fish about whether what Ruprecht publishes is crap or not. It has been proven to be so repeatedly.
    What DOES bother me is why he has so much control over each and every government democratically elected by us, the PEOPLE.

    Surely neutering this foetid, liver-spotted, pathetically corrupt life support system for a manky, withered old cock should be the issue?

  18. paul walter

    I guess some people saw MW last night and suspect that huge pressure is now being brought to bear on one of the last broadsheet components of ABC current affairs and news. Murdoch media tolerates no alternative and no diversity, for reasons we can only speculate upon. And I suspect there is nothing short of mole-whacking reactivity at the base of it.

  19. cuppa

    What an embarrassing photo of the Chimp with the President.

  20. cuppa

    It’s more than disturbing that an American citizen (Murdoch) should have such influence in our domestic AUSTRALIAN democratic affairs.

  21. ammojo

    Classic NPD… egged on by Ms Credlin.

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