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Prosperity Christianity and Neoliberalism – a match made in Heaven

Our new Prime Minister, Scott Morrison, is quite open about being a long-standing member of Horizon Church, a Pentecostal Christian faith affiliated with Australian Christian Churches, the Australian branch of the Assemblies of God denomination. As outlined in an article in Saturday’s Canberra Times, he stated his faith in his maiden speech in 2008, thanking Hillsong pastor Brian Houston for his ‘great assistance’. Hillsong is also affiliated with Australian Christian Churches, the Australian branch of the Assemblies of God denomination.

No one can dispute that Mr Morrison has every right to profess whatever faith he pleases. And according to his pastor Brad Bonhomme, as reported in the Canberra Times, there is no connection between Mr Morrison’s faith and his role as Prime Minister:

Unfortunately there will be some that assume whatever policy direction the Liberal Party might choose to take, some would assume I or our church will be involved in that. Nothing could be further from the truth … As far as the Liberal Party is concerned, we have no involvement in their policy and their decision making.

Well we hardly expected Brad to have a seat in the Cabinet room.

What’s more important, though, is what Mr Morrison believes as part of his religious faith. I have no personal knowledge of this, and can only go by what senior members of Hillsong – and presumably Horizon Church – have to say. Mr Morrison has been involved with this Church for many years, so presumably agrees with them. If he doesn’t, perhaps he can tell us so – but then what’s the point of being part of a Church if you don’t believe what they preach?

And what the Hillsong Church believes in is known as ‘prosperity Christianity’. According to Wikipedia, this is:

a religious belief among some Christians, who hold that financial blessing and physical well-being are always the will of God for them, and that faith, positive speech, and donations to religious causes will increase one’s material wealth.

In other words, if you’re rich and healthy, that’s God’s will. And if you’re poor or sick, then that’s God’s will too. It’s your own fault for not believing in the right things. Or giving enough money to the Church.

On the other hand, Wikipedia states that:

Prosperity theology has been criticized by leaders from various Christian denominations, including within the Pentecostal and Charismatic movements, who maintain that it is irresponsible, promotes idolatry, and is contrary to scripture. Secular observers have also criticized prosperity theology as exploitative of the poor.

So maybe Hillsong doesn’t believe in it? Well, a strong hint that they do comes from the title of a book written by the very same pastor Brian Houston whose ‘great assistance’ Morrison acknowledged. It’s called You Need More Money: Discovering God’s Amazing Financial Plan for Your Life. Houston of course denies preaching prosperity theology. But even his denial is equivocal:

I do believe God blesses people but I also believe in purpose. When God blesses a business person it’s for God’s own purposes. It’s a huge mistake if people teach others to be blessed but don’t help them to understand there’s purpose behind it and it’s not about them but what’s God called them to do.

So being rich is fulfilling God’s purpose for you. Nice to know.

What this means is that the former Treasurer and now Prime Minister couldn’t care less about poor people because it’s their own fault. The rich are blessed. The poor are not. It doesn’t matter if Pastor Bonhomme is sitting beside him or not; we know what Morrison believes because it is what he practices. And what he practices is a defence of wealth and an attack on the poor. Company tax cuts, robo-debt, small government, deregulation, a shrinking tax base – an enthusiastic embrace of the whole panoply of trickle-down economics – have been the hall mark of his time as Treasurer and will without a doubt be carried over to his Prime Ministership. What better argument for rising inequality is there than it’s God’s will?

But you know, even if he denies any religious influence of this sort on his politics – forget any other sort, like kindness or compassion – it doesn’t really matter. Because Scott Morrison is a neoliberal as well as a Hillsong adherent. The only difference is that most neoliberals rely on the God of the Market to justify their faith – and the inequality it promotes – whereas Scott has two strings to his bow. Prosperity Christianity and neoliberalism are truly a match made in Heaven for him.


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  1. Babyjewels

    “You Need More Money: Discovering God’s Amazing Financial Plan for Your Life.”

  2. Babyjewels

    For some reason my post above did not include the remainder of my comment which was the insertion of a vomiting emoticon.

  3. Shaun Newman

    From what I know about this USA cult, they take 10% of your income in order for you to “belong” to their cult. Such a “belonger” is one of the absolute last persons we currently need as our PM. We did only narrowly avoid the blackhearted Dutton, but I’m not at all sure that we did much better with a religious fanatic happy clapper.

  4. Margot Korbell

    And the neoliberal think tank the IPA is already telling Morrison what they would like him to do.

    Institute of Public Affairs
    Congratulations Prime Minister Morrison. Here’s what we want to see out of your Prime Ministership:

  5. Matters Not

    Shaun Newman, tithing (10 percent of income etc) has a long history and even has a place in the Old Testament (first book of Genesis.). It’s a practice that still has currency in some ‘modern’ churches.

  6. phil

    Prosperity Christianity, what a scam.

    Co-opt religion – get tax exemption then profiteer off society.

    More like the Church of Parasites.

  7. SteveFitz

    As a social doctrine, religion is a good thing for society and it’s not in the church, it’s personal. There are those who would embrace that believing in God guarantees absolution of their sins. I think that’s a cop-out. Our relationship with God is a two-way street. We also need to be good enough for God to believe in us. It’s a battle being that good but, in the process, you develop a conscience and empathy. Something I would like to see more of in our politicians. If you play the religion card you better live up to it, because there are consequences if you don’t.

  8. Diannaart

    Prosperity Christianity?

    Jesus must be turning in his grave, if he had one, if he existed, more convenient for the happy-clappers if the son of god never existed … none of that camel-through-the-eye-of-a-needle B/S for the deserving rich.

    Blessed are the moneymakers.

  9. Kronomex

    I’m so thrilled that the people of this country are safe(?) in the knowledge that a happy hand waving and clapping and speaking in tongues religious nutter will protect us from godless heathens and non-christians.

  10. Adrianne Haddow

    Thank you Kaye for your thoughtful / worrying article.

    You have shown us who Morrison really is, and more importantly the type of life belief he espouses. Much will be clearer when we see who he chooses for his cabinet. My feeling is … be very afraid,

    Another concern is how many of the corporations that the LNP government has out-sourced our social and welfare institutions to, share this same life belief.

    It seems to be a type of ‘pyramid scheme’ religion, not a recommendation for good social policy or a fair society.

  11. Bradley Black

    Didn’t Jesus want the money lenders cast out of the tent?

  12. guest

    This idea of ‘prosperity Christianity’ is part of elite thinking. It is found in various sects such as Assemblies of God and Calvinism where some are ordained by God to be elite and deserving of wealth. Being blessed then becomes counting of one’s blessings in dollars, It is a tempting kind of belief because it promises not only wealth but forgiveness of sins and a place in heaven. Ordinary sinful poor people get what they get because they deserve it.

    It just makes me wonder what kind of a god they think god is. It sounds like they see god as some kind of deliverer in a cargo cult. It is easy to see why it might appeal to Americans in particular. Perhaps they see politicians as some kind of divine provider,too, until thy do not deliver.

    Well, they might believe that all they like, but if there is no god, all that comes to nothing. But I suppose they have nicely joyful social gatherings, set apart from the sinful rabble.

    Perhaps we would be better off understanding that this planet is all we have, and that any belief in transcendental beings gets us nowhere. We had better get it right or we are lost; no help from above.

  13. Wam

    The septics have trump a president miles ahead of pence. We have the son of a small car, for this inadequate political guesser, a mile behind dutton.

    The son of a small car’s mates got rid of the token women early. Perhaps the issue of the church is worth skirting around with the god given flaws to equality? (Pentecostal hermeneutics by Rosinah Gabaitse is a far read.)

    My poor old memory cannot but linger on the members for Warringah and their part in the changing of the PMs. It is my fervent hope that the result is the same.

  14. Judith

    How can someone with these beliefs call themselves a Christian? They must be reading a different version of the New Testament – one that doesn’t include the “cleansing of the temple” story. I wonder how they’d interpret “Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth”?

  15. Keith

    Morrison has stated he will be governing for all of us, highly likely his first lie since becoming PM. No action on climate change means he has alienated numerous people.
    Hopefully, Morrison will ensure that Dutton is scrutinised by the High Court. Labor were certain from the advice of lawyers that all their Federal politicians had done everything possible to renounce their dual citizenship, not so according to the High Court.
    Dutton is likely to have another go at the leadership, Dutton is the preferred leader of the bastard extreme right wing nutters. Morrison is not the preferred leader of Murdoch, or the NSW Liberals according to some reports.

  16. Harry

    The Horizon church, and those of similar lik are a perversion of Christianity which emphasises humility, compassion and does not celebrate wealth as something noble in itself or a divine reward for effort.

    It’s more a political ideology which obscures the role of inherited advantage/wealth and high inequality of opportunity.

    It enables adherents of these churches (how many “strains” of Christianity are there at present anyway?) to justify and celebrate their prosperity as due to their own efforts and conversely to label those who are not prosperous as lacking in drive, persistence etc.

    Thus the less well off have only themselves to blame and they deserve as little as possible, only just a pittance. After all, they need to be incentivised to get off their arses don’t they?

  17. Kronomex

    Harry, rough estimate for “christian” religions and cults is anywhere from 35,000 – 40,000 give or take a couple of thousand.

  18. jaq Lane

    Same old shite.
    We need an election…now

  19. Kaye Lee

    Great article. Thanks Kay.

    Also from Morrison’s maiden speech in parliament…..

    “Australia is not a secular country—it is a free country. As US Senator Joe Lieberman said, the Constitution guarantees freedom of religion, not from religion. I believe the same is true in this country.”

  20. corvus boreus

    Hillsong are modern day reformists who gather to sing protest songs against Pope Gregory VII’s proclamation that declared ‘simony’ (the physical act of buying and selling facets of the spiritual) to be a grievous sin.
    When Jesus uttered that shit about the ‘eye of a needle’, he was merely commenting on how St Peter (aka ‘the divine bouncer’) had more of a keen eye for for a bribe than the guard at the postern gate.

  21. Zathras

    This Christian money talk reminds me of US Televangelists, like Jesse Duplantis, who wants his followers to cough up $54million for a new jet (the old one just isn’t good enough any more), or the formerly disgraced and imprisoned Jim Bakker who is selling buckets of food to sustain believers through the Tribulation (which is always imminent).

    I’m also betting the suitcases stuffed full of cash “love offerings” and carried away from international appearances by Hillsong’s Brian Houston are never declared to anybody. When it comes to setting an example of Christian humility I’m sure the $1 million, FBT-free annual expense account each year can easily be justified by the five recipients involved.

    There are so many more examples of such excess and greed.

    It has always been about money – and there’s lots to be made by the Guilt and Shame Industry – and it says a lot about the people who perpetuate such practices and look the other way while criticising and exploiting others on it’s behalf.

    For Morrison, it’s a good fit and his “speaking in tongues” practice is handy during interviews where he talks non-stop over the questioner.

    Fun times ahead for us all.

  22. New England Cocky

    I seem to remember that the Passover Rebellion commenced with Jesus throwing the money lenders out of the Temple. Seems that as an example, Morriscum has a lot to learn.

    As for Dutton,Toxic RAbbott will continue to hold the leash and encourage other inept rabble rousers to pursue their self fulfilling purpose of destabilising the NLP misgovernment for the benefit of foreign owned multinational corporations based in overseas tax havens.

    Remember the Golden Rule of the National$; “The Party of Family Values … Adultery, Racism, MDB Water Theft”.

  23. Em Cee

    An interesting article. Sad that it’s main aim seems to be to bash Christianity. As a Christian disciple of Jesus Christ, it saddens me. Firstly the bible is very clear, that many will come on the day of judgement, (which I believe we all will face), and Jesus will say “depart from me, I never knew you”. Only each individual truly knows if they fall into that category or not. Not that I am placing Mr Morrison in that category, only he and God know what his beliefs are. But it is important to remember No follower of Christ is perfect, we, like me, you and everyone else on the planet, are human. Flawed and imperfect. Again I am not speaking for Mr Morrison, I do not know him, nor do I in any way support his brand of politics. But if all anyone has to demonise him is his faith, which only he and God, know the true nature of, then they are really clutching at straws. The Jesus I know and serve is loving, especially to the weak, vulnerable and broken, and he laid down his life for us all. Remember that when you look at a Christian you are looking at someone who is a poor reflection of a perfect God.

  24. SteveFitz

    Thank you Em Cee – Only a brave person, with true conviction, would step in to face the lions alone. You are not alone

  25. SteveFitz

    That brings me back to what’s fundamentally right and what’s wrong and, what’s good and what’s bad in the world. In a nut shell, there are “givers and helpers” and “users and takers” and, within the political context that equates to Left v Right. The Liberal Party, or conservatives, have converted this into a political doctrine to justify their mindless inhuman behaviour driven by blind greed although, have a look at the left v right visualisation and draw your own conclusions:-

    Any clear thinking, fair minded person would not let them get away with it. It survives because it’s protected by main-stream media.
    Clearly, this “all for me and nothing for you” mentality is extremist and not what the word “conservative” implies. We are being mislead and lied to by the Liberal Party and MSM. The word “Liberal” is generally associated with left wing ideology (the dove) so we are also being mislead there – It’s what they do.

  26. Gra Gra

    I like Steve respect your bravery Em Cee and I don’t want to get stuck into you. I believe that most people who find God, Jesus or Father Christmas actually copp out on life. The only way to find “God” is to work yourself out; ie go deep within yourself. Though it’s a long hard journey that’s why most people venture into religion, it’s an easier option. The Bible stole from all the great philosophers and is hotch potch from various sages and wise men and some nonsense also. I don’t think you know Jesus. You believe you know him. Religion for Adults is just the same as child talking to a Teddy Bear. It’s comforting but not real. Though the talking to yourself is real and that is where the truth begins and that is comforting.Good Luck.

  27. corvus boreus

    Em Cee,
    I admire and respect some of the philosophical teachings attributed to Jesus the Nazarene.
    However, when I flip back further into the book and read some of the deeds and words attributed to the anthropomorphic deity they call JHWH, I am forced to come to the conclusion that the god of Abraham and Moses is a bit of a tyrannical dick.
    My concept of universal divinity is not sexually dimorphic, and doesn’t despise knowledge or demand ritual blood sacrifices.

  28. SteveFitz

    Clearly, religion has been hijacked by neoliberals and their equivalent in centuries past – It’s a great way to control and manipulate the masses while you are ripping them off to your own advantage. You will find hypocrites in a church, not God. When and if you are ever ready, God will find you and, the message will be “the difference between right and wrong”. If you already know the difference and are prepared to stand up and fight for what’s right, you may be closer to God than you think.

  29. corvus boreus

    Steve Fitz,
    Personally, I also think there is limited revelation of the true nature of divinity to be found in the pages of the collection of writings selected, extensively edited and redacted, then sanctioned as canonical by a bunch of men at the Council of Nicea.
    If the words of the bible are to be taken as the words of god (solo male human-shaped variant), one must also acknowledge some of the uncomfortable ‘truths’ contained within, like the fact that the bible states that the mass-murder and enslavement of captive Midianite children was sanctioned by JHWH and ordered by Moses in the book of Numbers, and the fact that the 2nd (and final) set of 10 commandments are mostly injunctions against committing faux-pas during sacrificial offerings, like the sin of serving up kid-goat stewed in nanny milk on an altar (commandment number 10).

    I do not disparage the Holy Bible in it’s entirety (heck, there’s even some reasonable ethical injunctions contained within the lunacies of Leviticus), but nor do I view that tome as being the fount of all spiritual wisdom (some of it is plain out repugnant).
    Likewise, though I do not dismiss the possibility of some divine oversight underpinning the mechanisms of reality, I am not narrowed enough in perspective to automatically define and confine IT as being a humanoid ‘he’.

  30. Gra Gra

    Though Steve we must be prepared to dance with Mr Inbetween.

  31. corvus boreus

    Ironically, in the creation myth at the very start of the good book, it is the fact that Adam and his consort ate of a magical fruit that suddenly revealed the difference between right and wrong (ie good vs evil) that directly caused the first holy temper tantrum.

  32. paul walter

    Corvus, you could substitute Scomo and Michaelia Cash for Adam and Eve for a better appreciation of that…Even a saint would dummy spit, yes?

  33. SteveFitz

    Corvus – My preoccupation is not with religion or the bible – But merely what’s in a good mans heart.

  34. corvus boreus

    paul walter,
    I had to admit that it appealed to my sense of the ridiculous to watch Michaela Cash, with the AFP breathing down her neck for both the gratuitous misuse of their resources for political purposes, and the deliberate leaking of operational details to the media, expressing her loss of confidence in the leadership abilities of Malcolm Turnbull.

    Similar here, although, to be more strictly accurate, I am interested in the quality of heart and mind within both genders of ‘humanity,’ rather than restricting my concerns to ‘mankind’
    Ps as an existent representative of terrestrial biology, I try to take a bit of interest in the welfare of other species as well.

  35. paul walter

    To be honest, I’d put together SteveFitz and Corvus’ reply for a synthesis, even if Steve seems a bit innocent.

    As long as there are humans, there will be active, conscious speculation as to the nature of reality, actuality and value and meaning of/in life and experience. There are too many unknown knowns and known unknowns, but I doubt whether we would have reached the era of Planck, Einstein, Hawking and Primrose had not Aboriginal people sat under trees around campfires entertaining their children with speculations and whimsical explanations later taken literally, meant to explain what was known or unknown and why.

    The old myths were developed by priesthoods like the one in post Bronze Age Judea to offer up a clumsy framework that provided for social cohesion and bare safety, then examined by the Greek Sage ( eg Pythagoras) and Socratic philosophers developing into a better understanding of what a civilisation might entail and the first science involving the likes of Euclid, Archimedes and later, Galen.
    the Roman Physician.

    I think Christianity set about a certain civilising, at bottom, sensibility that led to our era, although this was not examined until Neitzsche, Marx and the freudians and Darwin, with help from the advanced Islamic and East Asian civilisations over longe rthan a millenium, to the Renaissance, Enlightenment and through to today, It has been a human project, not just a Western one. But I have understand that civilisation and history are very new and the species itself not long out of the trees in the longer view.

    Whether or not Teleology is involved, no one can say, but the thing does seem processive and this what we live our lives within, learning patience, trying to avoid panic.

    Fundamentalism, however, I believe is a big threat, since it would remove science and trained rational discourse from the classroom for unprovable metaphysical speculation deteriorating to a closed, unchallengeable religious system of the type advocated by Opus Dei and the Southern Baptist Conference, to pluck a couple of examples from the aether, perhaps consigning us back to the Dark Ages out of ignorance and fear toward complexity.

    For all of this topic, the best I can say is keep religion as part of a basket of tools for the wider overall understanding, but fight like the devil to prevent religion from ousting education from the classrooms and I have little hesitation in branding the ideas of people like Abbott, Morrison, Fierravanti Wells, Abetz and Bernardi to be personally anathema for attempted proscription of variant ideas.

  36. corvus boreus

    paul walter,
    Quite a valid thesis (methinks).
    I make compartmentalised differentiation between faith (metaphysical/spiritual beliefs), theology (examination of the possible nature of divinity) and religion (binding doctrines and rituals).
    The last one often tends to narrow minds and restrict rational societal development (such as in science and philosophy)

    Regarding your penultimate paragraph, I would also add that similar applies regarding Islam, and it is important to make informed distinctions, like understanding the differences between relatively moderate variants (such as Sufism) and the insidiously and aggressively exported fundamentalist proselytizing types, such as those practiced by the Salafists of Saud.

  37. SteveFitz

    None of us get through life unscathed or brutalised by the scumbags out there. I’m happy to say I do retain some faith in human nature and if that equates to innocence then that’s me. Better than grovelling in the dirt with heartless, mercenary animals.

  38. corvus boreus

    There are many types of animals that do not, anatomically speaking, possess true ‘hearts’, but not amongst the vertebrates.
    Humans are the only species of animal known to commit acts of violence for the sake of remuneration (ie mercenaries).

  39. paul walter

    Agree with all of it. Thanks, Corvus in particular…one has to be careful on those issues you mention first and foremost. Effort is the cost of thinking things through and experience eventually plays into it.

    Steve, you put it fiercely and correctly. Don’t give up, life may well be processive in at least one way, perhaps others, but I like the way Corvus unpacks that with your corollary.

    As we have just learned, a week can be a long time in politics.

    In the end, we can’t benefit from the various religious fundamentalisms mentioned or secular fundamentalism of the fascist or Stalinist sort.

    I believe our hearts and heads must remain sanctuaries at just about any cost.

  40. corvus boreus

    paul walter,
    A recurrent recount from those who have dipped their toes into the River Styx (aside from the common ‘receding tunnel of light’ visual) is that of experiencing a prolonged instant of reviewing crucial moments in life’s journey, with all filters of bias and rationalistic self-justification stripped away, forcing honest reflection on the motivations and effects of one’s cumulative deeds.
    When all else fails, contemplation of that prospect usually serves to keep me relatively honest.

  41. Rusty

    Morrison speaks garbage when he says the constitution here is identical to that of the USA in garunteeing freedom in metaphysical beliefs. He says it does not garuntee citizens freedom FROM religion. Well, what an inane statement. Of course we in this very clearly secular, not theocratic, democracy, are by law and custom permitted NOT to believe in ANYONE’S God or faith. Scotty, your imaginary interpretation of religious freedom means zilch; nobody by obligation or default must have a set of (Christian) beliefs, and contrary to you, the majority of Australians do not have beliefs as you have. His opinion as stated is incoherent and factually wrong. Ah, I should know better; he’s another person so very fit to lead us, apparently because he IS narrow-minded, not intellectual and shallow thinking.

  42. Roderick EIME

    Regardless of your angle on this, don’t quote Wikipedia as a source. It’s not a source and any journo knows this.

  43. Adrianne Haddow

    Roderick, don’t you remember one of our esteemed LNP politicians quoted wikipedia with regard to an issue in his ministry.
    If it’s good enough for the gubberment, I don’t see why Kay can’t use it.

  44. SteveFitz

    I’ll go with that and while where at it, let’s go back to the beginning, as pointed out by Kay – “Our new Prime Minister, Scott Morrison, is quite open about being a long-standing member of Horizon Church, a Pentecostal Christian…” I’ll add, “in the belief it will win him brownie points”.

    Down through the ages more people have died in religious wars than any other, in the name of plunder wealth creation and expansion. A haven for those who would perpetrate despicable acts against our innocent children and, just like any corporate, it’s big business with the same driving force being money, power and control.

    Let’s have a look at the fundamental beliefs of a (Right wing Liberal Party conservative) and see how “Godly” they really are: Once again: The unemployed, down trodden and homeless: “They deserve it”, Focus: “Individual not society”, Society: “Survival of the fittest and screw the rest”, Supports: “Corporates and the wealthy elite not working families”. Government: “Involve the police and military” Beliefs: “Aggression and war” Family: “Relationships built on respect and fear”.

    It strikes me that the church isn’t much of an ambassador for God and, with Morrisons beliefs, it follows that Morrison is much of an ambassador for the church. A conservative playing the religious card, when you look at the big picture, starts to look a bit sinister.

    Don’t despair, even without the church, without religion and without the bible you can still be a wonderful, warm hearted, compassionate and giving human being. Or, if you want to be a self-serving heartless, mercenary drop kick, at least you won’t be a hypocrite – Mr Morrison.

  45. Josephus

    A most illuminating article; an atheist friend who watches US televangelists out of morbid interest invited me to join him, which I simply could not bear to.

    All the comments so far have been profound and instructive. A few comments from me: all three monotheisms advocate tithing or similar. Calvinism does not justify wealth accumulation, but rather espouses a variant of predestinationism, as did some other Christian sects. Eg the Jehovahs Witnesses say that they alone will go to Heaven, yet since there are more JH followers than the 30 000 places God has reserved for them, I think there is a problem… Anyway, in any form of predestinationism God, being omniscient and outside time, knows who will be saved and who won’t be, though we don’t know for sure, so we had better choose to be nice just in case. That is why Pascal’s famous wager was that there may be no God and no post mortem judgment, but that we may find ourselves in trouble if these do exist; hence betting on the Jesus cult was the only rational option.
    The argument is a bit tenuous, as it implies free will on our part, yet we cannot change our destiny. For centuries the Catholics debated whether good non Catholics could be saved. Yes said the Jesuits and later the deists; no said the Jansenists.
    Procapitalist claptrap was however never part of the monotheisms, and cannot be if religion means anything at all.
    Finally, behold the Quakers, who see the light of God in every man (sic), do not judge, and drive the ambulances during war (which helps the war I suppose, but you cannot have everything…)

  46. Christopher J. Ward

    When religious beliefs directly affect the country in which we live, with a stifling ideology and neocon greed dominant, I’ve probably been silent too long. It pains me as a Christian and a believer (I don’t force this down anyone’s throat) to see the effects on society as a whole. To be unemployed is your own fault; to be poor likewise and to privatise everything in sight, part of the LNP’s agenda all of which remain capital offences in my book; their ideology not mine. I well remember what I regard as the halcyon days of Bob Hawke and Paul Keating while I could cheerfully have strangled (metaphorically speaking) some of their ministers.

    How well I remember John Hewson who appears on TV as some sort of cuddly object, with his odious right-wing politics, especially neocon economics. Even in those days, I was concerned about all the talk of level playing fields, when many went off the cliff like the Gadarene swine, others being trampled under the feet of the wealthy and powerful. The point being that when we reached the level field, it wasn’t level and someone had stolen and presumably sold the goalposts. Having seen extremes of left and right, I want neither but I’m too old to affect the outcome. The current government is being unmasked as devious, untrustworthy, liars and manipulators beholden to behind-the-scenes actors. Anyone who thinks that the ALP would be any better need only look at them as part of the problem, not a solution. My worry as I slope off towards the end of life is for my children and my grandchildren. They certainly won’t be able to afford houses even if they have great academic qualifications or in one case absolutely superb craftsmanship that their fingertips. I would like to think that those mean-spirited bastards who belittle the less fortunate and pour scorn on those who stand up for the disadvantaged, will be reincarnated in a very inferior position where virtue signalling and posturing are seen for what they are: a bloody disgrace.

    I will have no truck with those religious bigots that it reminds me of the 1970s and 1980s, when certain people fought for their country only to be ignored. In those days, Chairman Mao’s mob were sudden-death on leftist deviationists and rightist opportunists. To invoke the name of God in any argument these days is problematic to say the least and damnable at worst. Hate to finish with it, but I’m glad I’m not young anymore.

  47. SteveFitz

    CJW – One thing corporate, the Liberals and their cohorts all have in common is a fear of what people think about them and a fear of losing something. This leads to paranoia and you can only carry that for so long. They keep an eye on social media for just this reason. They don’t have the capacity to act, only to react – So keep up the pressure.

  48. win jeavons

    Made in Heaven? Not any heaven I could want to go to!

  49. Shaun Newman

    I find it absolutely incredible that some people here who talk to themselves (in other words pray) are actually trying to defend the indefensible. There is no God, she is supposed to be a merciful God, then how does she tolerate millions of people starving to death every day? How does a moral God tolerate women being harnessed into sexual slavery every day, and how does this righteous God see unregulated capitalism making the rich richer every day as the poor get poorer every day? God is simply a figment of these people’s imagination, a concept that some people have been brainwashed from birth with and nothing more or nothing less, in my humble opinion. And the last person we need leading our nation is someone with these delusional ideas.

  50. MöbiusEcko

    Procapitalist claptrap was however never part of the monotheisms, and cannot be if religion means anything at all.

    Yet the Catholic church, the same one that Morrison gifted 1.21 billion of taxpayers money, is seeking to build a 161 million dollar skyscraper in the Sydney CBD.

    I acknowledge that under Howard mucking around with the SES funding model many poorer Catholic schools were left much worse off and had never recouped. Just another thing in a long line that Howard f*cked up from which Australia is still suffering the fallout. There’s another inconsistency, a religion that advocates for the poor has affluent and penurious churches and schools yet is perfectly capable of funding their poor sectors from their rich ones. So why don’t they?

  51. Adam

    I’m a Christian who firmly denounces the prosperity gospel. It isn’t Biblical at all. Even basic knowledge of the Bible and history will reveal this – all of the Apostles bar one died brutal deaths for their testimony about Jesus Christ. They didn’t experience prosperity.

    You made an error in your presumed theology though, most of these churches do not put the blame on poor people for their circumstances. Even though I disagree with prosperity doctrine, we both agree with what Jesus commands in the Bible says about loving and providing for the poor and marginalized.

    The fact of the matter is this: God blesses EVERYONE beyond what they deserve. The very breath in your lungs is an unmerited blessing and gift from the Lord. So, we’re all very prosperous if we have breath in our lungs. We are all sinful creatures who don’t even deserve this blessing alone, not to mention all of the other things we’re blessed with.

    Have you ever broken any of te ten commandments? If you have broken even just one little one – and I know you have – then you have violated God’s law and are deserving of separation from God – death and eternity in hell, yet here you are alive on earth – you still have time to repent of your sin and trust in the Savior. You don’t even realize how serious your sin is – the wages of sin is death! But! God made a way for you to not go to hell by coming to us in the person of Jesus Christ who paid the debt our sin has accrued for us on the cross. If someone pays your fine the judge can fulfil the obligations of the law and let you go free. That’s what happened on the cross 2,000 years ago!

    The point of our lives is not to become materially prosperous. We cannot take any of it with us when we die. The only thing we can take with us is our union with God – but you have a role to play before you can receive this gift. Repent and trust in Jesus alone to save you – not in your ‘good works’ – In Jesus Christ alone.

  52. corvus boreus

    I applaud your commitment to austerity, but as for the rest…..

    The 10 commandments (1st version) deem non-belief in the male god JWHW as a mortal sin, but are completely silent about things like rape, pedophilia and human slavery.
    This would probably help explain why, in the book of Numbers, Moses is claimed to have ordered the mass murder of captive civilians (women and boys) and given captive female children to his followers as personal playthings.

    Ps, here are the 2nd, final set of commandments that your bible says your god dictated to mass-murdering Moses ;
    (Exodus 34)
    ‘I promise to perform miracles for you that have never been seen anywhere on earth. Neighboring nations will stand in fear and know that I was the one who did these marvelous things. 11 I will force out the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites, but you must do what I command you today. 12 Don’t make treaties with any of those people. If you do, it will be like falling into a trap. 13 Instead, you must destroy their altars and tear down the sacred poles[b] they use in the worship of the goddess Asherah. 14 I demand your complete loyalty—you must not worship any other god! 15 Don’t make treaties with the people there, or you will soon find yourselves worshiping their gods and taking part in their sacrificial meals. 16 Your men will even marry their women and be influenced to worship their gods.
    17 Don’t make metal images of gods.
    18 Don’t fail to observe the Festival of Thin Bread in the month of Abib.[c] Obey me and eat bread without yeast for seven days during Abib, because that is the month you left Egypt.
    19 The first-born males of your families and of your flocks and herds belong to me.
    20 You can save the life of a first-born donkey[d] by sacrificing a lamb; if you don’t, you must break the donkey’s neck. You must save every first-born son.
    Bring an offering every time you come to worship.
    21 Do your work in six days and rest on the seventh day, even during the seasons for plowing and harvesting. 22 Celebrate the Harvest Festival[e] each spring when you start harvesting your wheat, and celebrate the Festival of Shelters[f] each autumn when you pick your fruit.
    23 Your men must come to worship me three times a year, because I am the Lord God of Israel. 24 I will force the nations out of your land and enlarge your borders. Then no one will try to take your property when you come to worship me these three times each year.
    25 When you sacrifice an animal on the altar, don’t offer bread made with yeast. And don’t save any part of the Passover meal for the next day.
    26 I am the Lord your God, and you must bring the first part of your harvest to the place of worship.
    Don’t boil a young goat in its mother’s milk.

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