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  1. Kaye Lee

    What a difference a year or two makes…..this from October 2012

    “Shadow Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull has broken his silence regarding the Fedeal Government’s controversial data retention and surveillance package, declaring that he has “grave misgivings” about a project which he feels “seems to be heading in precisely the wrong direction”.

    …some Liberal backbenchers are stridently opposed to the package, including Liberal MP Steve Ciobo, who has described as including tactics similar to those used by the Gestapo — the Nazi secret police. Yesterday, in a wide-ranging speech given as the annual Alfred Deakin lecture, Turnbull openly declared his concerns about the package.”

    Turnbull has “grave misgivings” on data retention

    If you read the article you will see it contains all the misgivings being articulated now by Scott Ludlum.

  2. unsimplelife

    It is all well and good to sight what is wrong with data retention, but i think the reality is that in one form or another it will be in place. Rather than sighting the blatantly obvious truth that it is a total erosion of our privacy rights, we all need to be looking at ways to protect ourselves as much as possible.

    There are several online services/apps that are considered out of scope in the legislation. Ie- website based email, rather than is and/or Australian hosted mail. Free public wife, vpn etc.

    There are plenty of ways to circumvent data retention as it is proposed right now, however by doing so you need to look at the bigger picture and start to consider just how wide the USAs surveillance net is cast. I think you will find the gaps in the Australian legislation almost directly coincide with what is already monitored on their end.

    There are some gaps. I am doing the research and will share when I can.

  3. ianmac

    Kaye Lee, as I would expect, is right on to to the doublespeak that we, daily, are force fed. $400million per annum is just the tip of the berg that the public face as the cost of the ‘Bott’s Paranoic Regime cripples Australia economically and socially.
    The worldview of this country has been leveled to below that of someone once married to a collector of many many shoes…!

    Kaye Lee, no wonder you are in pyjamas. This last week or so has been the most painfully excruciating slow schlock in the history of Australian politics. and that IS saying something !

  4. eli nes

    did anyone hear abbutt head of aust say the young don’t use mobile phones they use skype????

  5. Harquebus

    Not only will the data collected be processed by the security apparatus to control an innocent population and stifle dissent but, also through blackmail, control and stifle politicians and journalists.
    Our politicians are selling themselves out as well as us. They are completely stupid and shortsighted. When, late one night, a knock comes on their door, it will already be too late.

  6. Matters Not

    Michel Foucault? What next for the AIMN.

    Just joking.

    Great article Jennifer.

    Perhaps it’s really about both the ‘effects’ and the ‘affects’?

    What say you?

  7. Anon E Mouse

    I wonder what Peter Greste and his colleagues think of this.

  8. mark delmege

    (forgive me if I have told this one before) An old mate of mine who taught me the computer and the use of the internet before it was the internet now sells meta data on four continents. Interestingly he told me that computer software has more security holes than you can ever possibly imagine. Now remember that next time you try to use Tor or encryption or you are voting on-line for candidates in your local government election, footballs club or Federally. And remind yourself who it is that is recommending that on-line polling is safe and that it should be used for this or that election/

  9. Jennifer Wilson

    Matters Not, you have it in a nutshell. It is entirely about the affects and the effects.

    As for Foucault – he is everywhere. 🙂

  10. paul walter

    Wow, that Foucault quote is both central and piquant and I think if people ever wanted an example of how the process is played they would need go no further than Abbott himself in the negative or simulacrum most obviously.

    The cruel side of is of course, the extent that we must in our own ways, be not so much better than Abbott. The price for self reflexivity must be a little psychic work now and then.

    I really enjoyed that Neil Young says..more than meets the eye, in “My my, hey hey”.

    Some would say too deterministic, but this is not the particular rabbit Foucault is after.. he never denies free will within the contexts that form it. But it doesnt mean that people just take things for granted in the surety of knowing they will fight back if pushed hard enough, its precisely the trap we have to avoid; presuming life just turns up to oblige good folk..

    It is disturbing enough that surveillance and controllish behaviour have been able to sneak up on us to even the extent they have, but Life is what happens while we are planning other things: When others maybe resisiting us.

    Ok, so the reactionary mentality didn’t die, it is about and thriving in its new medium. what happens nowis that people avoid presumingits inevitbility and start disrupting it before we become irretrievably Abbottish as the disease proliferates.

    Mark Delmege unpacks a depressing, even crippling reality but from there we have the idea…having identified the problem we seek to subvert it because that’s the one joy left us…well, so be it.

  11. Jennifer Meyer-Smith

    Well written, Jennifer Wilson

    We citizens should not be subject to widespread and unmitigated surveillance. Rabid’s feeble attempt at differentiating what’s on the envelope as opposed to what’s inside, is facile and misleading because it still tracks where or what we are doing.

    If we tolerate this invasion of our privacy and the attack on the presumption that we are innocent before the suggestion of being found guilty, then we would be participating in what would only serves to confine us.

    It takes two to tango, so we must be vigilant in maintaining our civil and human rights despite the current LNP Degenerate Government’s contempt for such reasonable, ethical values. If we fail to oppose these regressive measures, then our laziness will only bite us in the bums for allowing the undermining of our democratic freedoms of speech, movement and self-determination.

    Speaking out on these forums (fora) is essential. Representations to noisy MP’s and Senators eg Lambie to voice our concerns is another way to act.

  12. Graham Houghton

    What puzzles me is why there hasn’t already been an ‘explosion of unsolved crime’ since Big Brother is not yet watching. And if you believe that last bit, you have a serious problem with reality. Criminals are usually well ahead of the game on this, so they’re already exploding (on the dark web, perhaps?), or they’re already using dead letter boxes and chalk marks all over the place, which includes metawebby thing.

  13. David

    Interesting informative article Jennifer. Seems to me if the snooping Govt know where we have been, it wont be rocket science to discover what is contained in the where.
    Graeme Houghton hits the proverbial nail. The real crims, those who the disastrous excuse for an AG Brandis insists are the nasties the Govt are legislating for, have progressed technically as fast if not faster as our law makers/enforcers have.

  14. Harquebus

    Legislation is not required.

    Kaspersky claims NSA hid spyware in HDD firmware

    Russian researchers expose breakthrough U.S. spying program
    Your hard drives were RIDDLED with NSA SPYWARE for YEARS,lenovo-caught-pre-installing-adware-on-laptops.aspx
    The US and UK national spy agencies stole encryption keys that protect mobile phone communications around the world to monitor global voice and data mobile communications without permission.,us-uk-spy-agencies-raid-gemalto-sim-encryption-keys.aspx

    Want more? Google: firmware spyware

  15. Harquebus

    The U.S., Australia, Canada, UK and New Zealand share spy data.
    Google: Five Eyes, PRISM, Echelon
    ECHELON is a name used in global media and in popular culture to describe a signals intelligence (SIGINT) collection and analysis network operated on behalf of the five signatory states to the UKUSA Security Agreement (Australia, Canada, New Zealand,
    the United Kingdom, and the United States, known as AUSCANNZUKUS or Five Eyes)

  16. mark delmege

    and then there was the Promis Software from years back…

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