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  1. Phi

    Hit the nail on the head with this statement which clearly defines the name of the LNP game. “….a militarisation of our learning environments, colouring the social environment of our schools with an authoritarian palette.”

    The LNP’s social dominance orientation (SDO) needs children to fully grasp the importance of subservience to authority.

    Full agreement from me on the need for a national debate on privacy and the implications of data retention legislation. Especially so since the European Court of Justice has just rejected similar legislation on the grounds that it is contrary to the rights of privacy.

  2. David

    Xenaphones rear must be so full of splinters from shifting around on top of the fence he spends most of his time sitting on, he could go into the safety matches business. Everything he says be it for or against is in tones of not to offend, nice guy, really not wanting to oppose or agree but (sigh) really must make a decision, one way or the other.
    Even his support for manufacturing in his home state of Sth Australia, subs for example he gave the ‘old gee this is difficult’ shuffle but I really must.
    I sometimes wonder if Nick is really suited for the rough and tumble of political representation, he would certainly make a wonderful job of being a ‘Dear Nick’ problems page.
    My be a little harsh, but he needs to grow an extra one. Even our mate from the Motoring Enthusiast Party, has grown in stature of late, much to the Govts horror. There’s one vote they thought was easy pickings.
    Incidentally Senator Xenaphone voted with the Govt against the Brandis Censor Motion. See what I mean?

  3. crypt0

    Nick Xenophon was one of the very few Federal politicians that I held in anything other than contempt … or something close to it.
    How he could vote with the govt. on the Brandis censure is totally beyond me.
    Just when you think there’s a politician with a brain, a heart and some ethics …
    But then, what would I know?
    I thought Abbott was unelectable … wrong again !

  4. stephentardrew

    And so the dystopia of the US comes close and closer.

    All small steps in the great game of corporate hegemony and Christina’s version of Darwinian inequality.

    These fear mongers are certainly cowards couched in the empty vessel of vacuous bloviating brave Australian cane toads. (Definite similarities – don’t lick them them will kill you).

    A trail of fears followed by a tail of tears as usual.

    Oh joy we have so much more suffering to look forward to.

    Thank you Joe austerity is such an overwhelming success.

    The worst wages growth in 20 years is Joe Hockey’s ‘good news’ (Praise be the great Gombo in the sky)

    http://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2015/mar/02/the-worst-wages-growth-in-20-years-is-joe-hockeys-good-news

  5. Loz

    Wishy Washy Nick Xenophone agrees with a little bit but not all of it.

  6. Matters Not

    It is unlikely that employing security guards to act as a bulwark against violence in schools will accomplish anything but a militarisation of our learning environments, colouring the social environment of our schools with an authoritarian palette.

    Agreed. Had some ‘intellectual’ experience in this area following the attack on Jandamarra O’Shane by a white anglo named Paul Wade Streeton aged 26, who walked into the grounds of the North Cairns State School carrying a five litre tin of petrol on October 10, that year and set the student alight.

    Needless to say all who had an interest in the area were concerned about what might be done to prevent such attacks in the future. The solutions were many and varied, most of which centred around making the school buildings and surrounds ‘secure’. Taking such solutions to their logical conclusions implied that the schools of the future would resemble prisons.

    As I recall, all, including the Minister, beat a hasty retreat.

    The latest ‘thought bubble’ has nothing to do with school security in any practical sense but is simply another avenue for ‘scaring’ the punters and perhaps ‘scarring’ them as well.

    Perhaps the MSM might ask: Would the security guard be armed? Who takes his (probably not a her) place when he is on a lunch break on wants to relieve himself? Which gate is guarded, the ‘front’, the ‘back’ the ‘side’ or the whole low surrounding fence?

    Why not go the whole hog and arm each and every teacher? (That notion has currency in the US). And perhaps those senior students who have been trained?

    In short, the proposal is just ridiculous in any sense other than the political.

    We are not the US. Their solutions would just compound our problems including those which are imagined.

  7. silkworm

    GUNS IN SCHOOLS????

    What could possibly go wrong?

  8. silkworm

    “29 out of the 54 are located in New South Wales, with the majority in western Sydney.”

    This wouldn’t have anything to do with the upcoming election in NSW, would it?

  9. Matters Not

    Having a gun in your handbag? What could possible go wrong?

    A mother who was accidentally shot dead by her 2-year-old son in a Walmart supermarket had been carrying the gun in a handbag given to her as a Christmas present, it emerged yesterday.

    Veronica Rutledge had a concealed weapons permit for the gun which the toddler, her only child, fired into her at point blank range after finding it in her handbag.

    But shootings are confined to the 2 year olds. Even the adults are involved.

    in St. Joseph, Michigan, a 55-year-old woman named Christina Bond accidentally shot and killed herself while adjusting a handgun stored in her bra holster on 1 January 2015:

    Read more at http://www.snopes.com/info/news/braholster.asp#uf6eLzSVyz7fgAT0.99

    Yes as David Leyonhjelm argues we would all be much safer if we are all armed. The Lindt Café incident would never have happened apparently if we were all armed.

    Me. I am awaiting delivery of my ‘bra holster’. After all, why should women be the only ones given the chance to live dangerously?

  10. Robert Anderson

    In reference to the visit of the then Prime Minister of Yugoslavia/
    “The then AG raided ASIO headquarters on March 16th, 1973, ordering police to open sealed filing cabinets due to concerns about ASIO’s failure to respond adequately to the aforementioned threats, finding that ASIO had little information on the threat to the Yugoslav Prime Minister, confirming public perceptions that ASIO was neglecting a key security issue. The Utasha group had been involved in several bombings in Melbourne, Sydney, Canberra and Brisbane during 1972, causing no deaths but damaging property and injuring members of the public”.
    I was in the Army in Darwin at the time and we had to secure the Darwin Airport for approx 4 hours before his arrival and
    and hour after departure to wherever his next destination was.

    We were armed but had no ammunition.
    Stupidity at its best.

  11. Matters Not

    And for those who think a two year old can wreck mayhem by shooting only the mother, try the three year old who shot both parents.

    A three-year-old US boy shot and wounded his father and pregnant mother with a 9mm handgun that he pulled out of the woman’s bag while searching for an iPad, police in New Mexico said on Sunday

    http://www.smh.com.au/world/toddler-3-shoots-father-and-pregnant-mother-at-new-mexico-motel-20150201-133fx3.html

    I think I see the problem here. It’s not ‘guns’ or the age of the ‘offenders’.

    The crucial variable is ‘handbags’ and who carries same..

    Thus the new school security policy will ban the bringing of handbags into schools. But given the available evidence, the ban will only apply to mothers, given that there is absolutely no evidence that handbags carried by males have ever contributed to deaths or woundings by ‘toddlers’.

    Shit, this ‘policy making’ is simple.

  12. JohnB

    The more I see the more I dislike it – Xenophon is expanding his Senate presence – some would say he is building a business out of it.
    The Nick Xenophon Team
    “…(NXT) will bring together a team of like-minded people and support their candidacies in state and federal elections Australia-wide…”
    https://nxt.org.au/

    As if we haven’t got enough trouble with PUP and the other loose cannons in the senate.

  13. Matters Not

    BTW, I think we should ban the wearing of ‘bras’ as well. Given that the ‘evidence’ suggests they are a means of concealment of dangerous weapons.

    The new three word slogan should be ‘ban the bra’.

    Now where have I heard that before? Or at least something like that.

  14. silkworm

    Matters Not, I agree. I was dancing with a woman who was taller than me, and she almost poked my eye out. =:o

  15. Michael Taylor

    Silky, was she wearing a bra though. :mrgreen:

  16. stephentardrew

    Just about to post that DanDark butcha beat me to it.

    Excellent article.

    For those promoting non-compulsory voting.

    Think again.

  17. diannaart

    Where is the evidence for the installation of security guards into our schools? Such measures require supportive evidence. Apologies, I forgot, this is a RWNJ government – evidence not essential.

  18. Sir Ossis

    I think maybe armed guards at restaurants etc. would be nifty. Would stop all those terrorists attacking between entree and mains!

    Would not be too keen on the full-body pat-down upon entry, but who wouldn’t feel better seeing a stooge with a gun at the door giving passers-by the evil eye? Boy, that would put the wind up all those Jihadi’s.

    Or maybe we could just go all ‘Leyonhjelm’ and start toting our own guns. Handy for those life or death shoot-outs after dessert. Is body-armour uncomfortable?

    The wild west of Australia. Doing the US Tea Party proud!

  19. David

    I cant find one incident of a school in Australia being attacked by a gun wielding shooter. However there is bound to be crazies out there keen to create an incident not long after Abbotts absurd fear mongering Govt institute this insanity.
    Tell a kid not to do something? 9 times of 10 it’s done. Tell a teen no beer at the party? next morning, “you look terrible, I told you not to drink” Tell a disturbed person?………
    Abbott is determined to have his own Tampa!!!! Lives mean nothing to this phsyco.

  20. mars08

    Better safe than sorry. If you’re doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear…. etc ….etc …..etc ….etc …etc

  21. mars08

    “In every age it has been the tyrant, the oppressor and the exploiter who has wrapped himself in the cloak of patriotism, or religion, or both to deceive and overawe the People.”
    ~Eugene Victor Debs (1855-1926)

  22. paul walter

    Keenan I’ve seen on QA- he is also an idiot. All this manipulative ramping up of fear and loathing stuff from Abbott and co to cover up a lack of real of ideas as to progress for the country is dismal.

    They are good at vandalising things but not so good when it comes to building something.

  23. darrel nay

    “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” …Benjamin Franklin, a guy that knew a little about freedom and security.

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