Malcolm’s talking points
Last night, Malcolm Turnbull sent out the script to his cast of parrots who are apparently incapable of thinking for themselves. The “talking points” were immediately leaked to the press.
Predictably, the majority of it related to the trade union Royal Commission and Bill Shorten’s testimony, but it was the rest of it that should be prompting questions.
Under the heading Economic Management, we hear nothing at all about this government’s performance or intentions, just the same old attacks on Labor.
Labor’s Budget black hole is almost $50 billion and they have no way to fund it. Which taxes is Labor going to increase?
Hockey’s first two budgets yielded a $90 billion deficit and the 2015 MYEFO predicts a cumulative deficit of $108.3 billion over the next four years. And we know which tax increase Labor is going to oppose.
How can Labor seriously argue it has any credibility on the budget and maintaining competent economic management, given its blatantly populist approach to every issue that it has engaged on the past 2 ½ years?
Coming from the slogan party who has spent hundreds of millions on media monitoring and focus groups, the accusation of populism is somewhat laughable. And steering us unscathed through the GFC brought praise from the whole world for Labor’s economic management.
Can Bill Shorten point to a single saving measure that Labor is proposing, other than scrapping the $1.3 billion emissions reduction fund and replacing it with a carbon tax that will hit every Australian family when it comes to paying the electricity bill?
Scrapping the Direct Action debacle and introducing an ETS would raise revenue in the tens of billions. Labor’s proposed crackdown on multinational tax avoidance is projected to raise $20 billion over the next decade. Their crackdown on fraudulent claiming of business usage for cars would have saved another $1.8 billion had the Coalition not scrapped it supposedly to ‘save’ the car industry. They also had a plan to tax superannuation retirement income of over $100,000 pa but the Coalition scrapped that too. Instead, they have passed on an $80 billion black hole to the States by withdrawing funding for hospitals and schools. Morrison is determined to protect tax concessions for the wealthy, another area that Labor is prepared to look at.
Labor has criticised the Government for – in Bill Shorten’s own words – being ‘soft’ on multinationals, and yet Labor’s own policies in this area would only raise $1.9 billion, a tiny fraction of Labor’s $50.1 billion fiscal black hole. Treasury has criticised the policy, arguing it won’t work and may be counterproductive.
I can find no record of criticism from Treasury apart from Joe Hockey’s say so but there are numerous quotes from people like Jennifer Westacott and Kate Carnell saying that asking multinationals to pay tax would curb investment – the same line they always have and always will use.
Isn’t this just another example of Bill Shorten’s policy populism to hide the fact that Labor has no real economic plan or credibility?
I have not heard anything from the Coalition about a plan other than “everything is on the table except….” Two and a half years on and what have they achieved?
Under the heading The Tax System, we still hear nothing except criticism of Labor – no Coalition plan in sight despite their insistence that the Opposition release fully costed policies for a balanced budget.
Labor’s appalling record on tax is clear
Labor aren’t the ones who introduced the GST. It isn’t Labor who wants to increase it. And Hockey was the one who decided to increase the fuel excise every year.
Their carbon tax just pushed up prices for households and didn’t reduce emissions
To compensate for any price rises due to the carbon tax, Julia Gillard gave $7 billion worth of income tax cuts by increasing the tax free threshold from $6000 to $18200 along with other payments to low income earners and welfare recipients.
Emissions dropped by 11% in the two years during which the carbon tax was in place. They rose by 4.3% in the year after it was removed and emissions intensity increased as brown coal use grew again.
Their mining tax cost investments and jobs and didn’t raise any money
According to a BIS Shrapnel Mining in Australia report, mining investment dropped by 11% in 2014-15 after the removal of the mining tax, and is set to fall a further 58 per cent over the next three years. A further 20,000 job losses in the period can be expected, coming on top of the 40,000 losses since investment peaked in 2012-13.
According to Treasury advice, their multinational tax plan will just cost jobs and investment
As mentioned before, I can find no such advice except one sentence from Joe Hockey, and considering how wildly wrong he was in his assessment of the impact of the carbon and mining taxes, his opinion is of little value. Taxation can never make a profitable business unprofitable.
They can’t be trusted on tax – don’t listen to what they say, remember what they did
What good advice.
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Return to home pageWhat a great example of turd polishing…
the IPA-LNP NAZI Party is TOTALLY BANKRUPT ! who would have guessed ? F
six years in #28’s foetid underpants and this is all it can come up with ? NOTHING ? ? ? PFFT …
and a RETROSPECTIVE NOTHING at that !
F O A D …
Unfortunately, there is no one in the MSM who has the guts to ask pointed questions like this. They get away with murder under the nose of so called ‘reputable’ journalists. The MSM is deaph towards the LNP. Nobody asks ‘Hang on a minute, that isn’t true..’ or whatever. Australia is on the slide towards fascism.
Where are all the talking points on Policy? There’s nothing here about running the country. It’s all about wedging others to stay in power. It’s a good thing Australia has so many dedicated civil servants who actually keep the the country running while the ‘elite’ boys and girls play Aussie Rules Politics.
That is exactly what struck me too John. Not one word about what they intend to do. Not one word about their achievements so far. Not one word about their vision for Australia. What a sorry bunch they are. The email encourages backbenchers to “focus on being proactive and getting our message out about innovation, jobs and economic growth” but it appears there is nothing other than slogans and buzz words. I can see myself getting heartily sick of the word innovation.
Shorten’s talking points are indeed impressive. “PM says one thing, does another” Covers many issues. listening lowerhouse, MPs got off pat. Already getting under some govt MP’s skin.
Seems election within 6 months. GST & early election are definitely on. Seems residue of CEF is still to go, even if it fits in with the innovation chant.
Labour should “leak” a paper consisting of rebutting each Liberal lie/assertion, and challenge MT to produce evidence of the Treasury advice so blithely mentioned. Better still, get Treasury to confirm/deny. They need to be inventive at getting this rebuttal out smartly, simply, and as widely as possible. Difficult with the Murdoch brickwall, but not impossible.
If “populism” means legalising same sex marriage, bringing back the carbon tax, becoming a republic, blocking tax free loopholes for big business and killing off any other LNP right wing, steal from the poor give to the rich policies, I’ll take populism every time!
Maybe Labor should consider reframing the term “popularism” as meaning doing what the people want?
The Coalition’s plan to transform the NBN will see download speeds of between 25 and 100 megabits per second by the end of 2016 and 50 to 100 megabits per second by 2019.
MALCOLM TURNBULL: Speeds that are more than capable of delivering all of the services and applications households need. You can deliver 100 megabits per second at 400 – up to 400 metres away from the node on the existing legacy copper.
“THE country is missing out on the latest television technology because the Federal Government abandoned the original National Broadband Network plan and banished households to inadequate broadband speeds, according to a top Presto executive.
The TV-streaming firm will officially launch new phone and tablet apps, Apple TV streaming, and high-definition content for subscribers on Tuesday, but it will postpone offering 4K content until broadband speeds improve in Australia.
Australia’s average internet speed is just 6.9 Mbps, according to the Akamai State of the internet report, bringing its ranking to 44th in the world, and barely enough to stream 720p high-definition video.’
http://www.news.com.au/technology/presto-says-australias-internet-speeds-too-slow-for-4k-content-and-blames-new-nbn/news-story/f08d9845d708bdaa0556ddc3e7251f6f
Incompetent bludgers!
Telling lies might be acceptable for some folks but when our elected leaders blatantly tell lies (to maximize their chance for re-election) I just find it jarring and abhorrent and they bleat about role models.
Surely there is a law against misrepresentation and this is what the LNP do on a daily basis with their lies, however, and no doubt about it to certain parameters there is a 2 level legal system one for us and another for the pollies.
Just a thought, maybe, just maybe, a class action could be brought against the LNP for misrepresentation and maybe just maybe after that the lies might stop.
And the above is akin of a squadron of pigs on the roof of parliament house preparing for take-off.
propaganda sheet, as if that was a leak . media are so full of it , can only imagine what bull shit is coming . must be a election coming. he will go early . lambie using blood and breast tests for reason to approve ABCC , like the government was going to can it , be like holding back defence force pay rise , as if . always one weak one in the pack and you know who that is ,too much Botox , someone has to pay for it
Just done a search and guess what? the liberal party is a corporation. If the law enforcers of the land won’t act on blatant misrepresentation, the other avenue is to sue them under the Trade Practices Act.http://engage.wa.liberal.org.au/libmail/forms/constitution.pdf
With my recent experience I could prepare the claim.
Can someone now leak the full story that Dyson Heydon wrote about unions – please?
Telling lies might be acceptable for some folks but when our elected leaders blatantly tell lies (to maximize their chance for re-election) I just find it jarring and abhorrent and they bleat about role models.
Good point. This is the broadband policy the ALP took to the 2007 election. It got everybody excited and helped them win the election
Labor commits to investing up to $4.7 billion into a new high speed national broadband network for 98 per cent of Australians. This will be fibre optic to the node. 12 megabits per second – and capable of upscaling. It will be laid out over 5 years in partnership with the private sector. In the 19th century, nation builders laid out the railway network. In the 21st century, nation builders are laying out high speed broadband networks.
After their election win Labor put their policy out for tender but there were no takers. Their election promised was thrown into the bin. It was just a lie to win the election. Labors first NBN was supposed to be finished by 2013.
Jaquix Albo done great job after qt. Moved motion that showed up this got failure on roads infrastructure. Pyne unable to gag him.
We are also witnessing Nauru.Manus unwinding.
dear oh dear oh dear Kaye short simple ready to be the topic at every worker’s BBQ and screaming to be splashed on every available labor party window’
the borrowing
‘the big numbers given to the rich’
the bigger numbers give to consultants
The avoiders of paying the medicare levy
there is enough to make a scrolling video with little funny cartoons for every shopping centre.
Once again your words have rekindled my enthusiasm and hope that enough people will apply the brakes to stop this train wreck.
It remains to be seen if labor can lift themselves out of their narcosis. in time, to use your words.
ps I have long been an admirer of the power of women and peta credlin is looming as doing an admirable job getting the rabbott to the top job and nearly keeping him there for almost two years.
Before this article appeared I was pondering of the corrupt courts and doing a little illustration series on a theme of kangaroo courts of Australia and I happened to log onto Facebook and was greeted with a reminder that I posted this pic https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204565269904218&set=a.1209658834111.33400.1007919909&type=3&theater a year ago.
I’m sure it will be bring a smile to one’s face if not a laff.
And I just remembered that I already have created a pic on the Brisbane Kangaroo Courts https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2588118454740&set=pb.1007919909.-2207520000.1454390660.&type=3&theater
They are really worth a peek. lol
So NoS you believe in that tunnel you reside in, Turnbull/Abbott’s is a superior product….go on say yes, go on..I know you want to. Cheaper and on time, promised speeds all done and delivered. Go on!!
Cheaper and on time, promised speeds all done and delivered.
The current NBN which should be called NBN2 since the policy Labor took to win govt in 2007 was thrown into the bin. NBN2 was thought up on the back of a drinks coaster on a plane flight from Sydney to Melbourne.
And we are stuck with it. Conroy signed contracts which cannot be broken. The Coalition changed it a little bit by doing FTTN rather than FTTP. Meaning that instead of digging up every street in Australia only the main streets will be dug up and the existing copper network will be used from the street corner. That has to be cheaper and faster to build. Nobody really knows how much Labors FTTP would cost to build. But most probably double what Labor said and take years longer to build. And the monthly bill could be double or triple what people are paying now.
Neil, to claim that the Rudd NBN would cost people two to three times more than what they are paying now is something you just made up so you could have your customary and tiresome dig at Labor.
We had the Rudd NBN in Canberra and my monthly internet bill dropped by $10 (a fall of twenty per cent). How do you explain that?
Neil of Sydney
Labor didn’t toss in the towel they then went on to implement the NBN.
While we are talking NBN if the Howard government had not sold Telstra we probably would already enjoy fibre to the premises. That was a great cash grad by a grubby little man who couldn’t lie straight in bed. How many mum and dad investors got duded and lost their hard earnt money buying Telstra shares? Then of course there was the Amigos imported to line their pockets with Telstra shareholders money.
There were 73% of shareholders who voted against the Telstra CEO and directors proposed salary increase but they gave themselves an increase anyhow. Now that is democratic isn’t it and the LNP say the unions are corrupt. Prior to the Howard government changing corporations law it would have been considered theft. So Howards term as PM wasn’t without achievement, he made corporate theft legal!
How do you explain that?
They are running at a loss. At the moment the NBN is being built with borrowed money. Worse it is off-budget. The expense of building the NBN is not included in the Australian budget because one day it will supposedly run at a profit and pay back the cost. Nobody knows how much it will cost, only that FTTN will be cheaper to build than FTTP.
Neil of Sydney
“Meaning that instead of digging up every street in Australia only the main streets will be dug up and the existing copper network will be used from the street corner.”
Do you actually believe your own bullshit? You should stand for election as a Liberal candidate you would be in good company.
Fact is the NBN purchased Telstra’s conduits (underground pipes) so very few streets needed to be dug up the intention was to pull the fibre through the existing conduits. Most of the digging required was to install the trunk lines (fibres) between the major distribution points. This trenching is still required and the NBN have spent lots of money buying new copper cable because much of what exists is buggered. Why would you replace a copper cable with a copper cable, 19th century technology being deployed in the 21st century.
Now that is progress.
In many streets where the copper is still OK there is still a major problem, the cables were installed so long ago they didn’t cater for every house to have a connection and higher density housing has increased the shortage of copper cable pairs. As a result even more old copper cable will be replaced with new copper cable before Turnbull’s NBNF (make what you want of the F) is complete.
Tony Abbott’s 2013 campaign speech:
.. every household gains five times current broadband speeds – within three years and without digging up almost every street in Australia – for $60 billion less than Labor.
This federal government’s award for the Great Big Tax on Everything goes to…………
The GST
Hip hip hooray, hip hip hooray, hip hip…
But Neil, you said it would cost two to three times more, and now you’re saying it’s cheaper because they are making a loss.
Huh.
Seriously, do you just make stuff up as a reason to take another cheap shot at Labor?
But Neil, you said it would cost two to three times more,
I said FTTP would cost 2 to 3 times more. The Coalition is doing FTTN. This means only the main streets need to be dug up and then the existing telephone lines are used from the street corner to the home. That has to be cheaper than doing fiber to the front door of every home in Australia.
But i suspect NBN is undercharging because they do not know what the final cost will be. FTTN is cheaper then FTTP but will still be expensive to build. We will have to wait a while till we find out what NBN will have to charge to cover their costs.
Neil how do you explain Turnbull buying copper from Telstra, than being responsible for repairing and maintaining it. Conroy lease only the ducts and pipes.
How do you explain copper being used on greenfield sites,
Why is government replacing crapped out copper with copper.
Same goes for Optus technology that is being used as part of the mix.
PS Fibre is now cheaper than copper to lay and maintain.
Multi Technology Mix is like something out of Alice in Wonderland.
Kaye, no one mentions upload speed which could be more important when one comes to industry.
really, haven’t you guys anything better do than engage neil, one just can’t reason with a lunatic. very true.
bob what is more concerning NoS is still being given space to air his absurd Tory unsupportable utterances….free speech has its limits surely.
No street to be dug up. Using Telstra’s duct and pipe. Getting Telstra to negotiation table to sort out Howard’s mess is what held NBNco up.
Forewarned is forearmed. Once again, something relevent of the sort of thing that now goes missing as to the ABC.
David
free speech has its limits surely.
Not in this case because it’s coming from a lunatic on the basis that the general consensus is that the FTTP was the superior technology and anyone saying the contrary should be treated like a lunatic and best to avoid as they seem to always detract from the main theme of the story.
Sorry Neil, but if the shoe fits …..
This would be one of Turnbulls “non talking” points
Will Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull explain to voters why it has only been Mal Brough who has stood aside from his ministerial position during this Australian Federal Police investigation?
Liberal-National Party MP for Longman Wyatt Roy has been federal Assistant Minister for Innovation since 21 September 2015.
It has been alleged that he is a parliamentarian who sometime in 2012 (along with Mal Brough) requested a member of the Speaker’s staff, James Ashby, to make a copy of sections of then Independent MP for Fisher and Speaker of the House of Representatives Peter Slipper’s official diary for a political purpose.
In 2013 Peter Slipper lost his seat and Mal Brough was elected to federal parliament as the Member for Fisher.
In September 2015 Mal Brough (along with Liberal MP for Stuart and now Minister for Industry, Innovation and Science Christopher Pyne & Wyatt Roy) supported the sacking of Tony Abbott as prime minister and the installation of Malcolm Turnbull in his place
In December 2015 it was reported that Wyatt Roy was under investigation in relation to longstanding allegations against Special Minister of State and Minister for Defence Materiel and Science Mal Brough and, on 1 February 2016 it was further reported that he (along with Christopher Pyne) is ‘assisting police with inquiries’ in relation to associated allegations.
Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull needs to explain to voters why it has only been Mal Brough who has stood aside from his ministerial positions during this Australian Federal Police investigation.
Because as it now stands it can be suspected that it is purely the prime minister’s naked self-interest which is protecting Roy and Pyne from temporary demotion until the police investigation resolves the matter one way or another, as he can ill-afford to alienate more of those parliamentary supporters who gained him his present high office
that the general consensus is that the FTTP was the superior technology
The point the Coalition is making is that FTTP is too expensive to build. Nobody really knows how much the final cost would be for FTTP. It would also takes years longer to build compared to FTTN.
I recently got connected to the NBN. It took several months to get connected. Two guys had to come out 4 times before my NBN connection started working. And then not long after it was installed it stopped working and a guy had to come out and get it fixed. That never happened when i had ADSL. If i had a problem it was solved over the phone.
I got all excited when PM Malcolm Turnbull announced the innovation grants, but there is no such thing. Lots of grants for community, arts, clubs, but nothing for new innovators except if they have a business with turnover not more then $20 million.
Where is the innovation support for Australian startup?
I have invented a product that I’m patenting, but need urgent finance to bring it to fruition. Provisional Patent in place.
Neil of Sydney
“Two guys had to come out 4 times before my NBN connection started working. And then not long after it was installed it stopped working and a guy had to come out and get it fixed. ”
That is what happens when you try to provide high speed through old copper cables. Spending the money to replace everything in the first place is cheaper in the long run, that is why countries with a vision to the future have run fibre to the home.
NoS
What Wally said.
What Wally said.
It is a great honour that you disagree with me.
Have you people any idea how much it would cost to build FTTP?
@Neil of Sydney
Have you ANY idea of the cost of maintaining a 20th century copper hooked up to 21st fibre into the, indefinite, future?
Short term gain, long term loss. Although that is not really true – refitting old copper with new is more expensive than replacing with fibre.
Of course, to agree with that would bring your entire world view crashing down – so I’m not expecting anything Neil – certainly no Road to Damascus enlightenment from you.
http://www.news.com.au/technology/presto-says-australias-internet-speeds-too-slow-for-4k-content-and-blames-new-nbn/news-story/f08d9845d708bdaa0556ddc3e7251f6f
Neil of Sydney
There is one plus with the NBNF the LNP will deliver, demand for tradesman to fix the problems with the antiquated copper cables will let us push our wages and charge out rates up $25/$40 an hour. Nothing bad happens without someone benefitting. And then the MSM headlines will read “Government held to ransom by Electrical Union thugs” when in reality the problem was born from utter stupidity.
“Can Bill Shorten point to a single saving measure that Labor is proposing…?”
What have the Romans ever done for us?
Why is it only the construction and building industry that seem to have so much strife with unions?
Kaye Lee
The video is brilliant, the only way workers will ever be paid and treated fairly in the workplace is to stand together as one. The LNP and employers know that singularly workers are weak and that is why they insist on individual work place agreements but when it comes to protecting the industry they operate within those same employers are members of an industry body. Nothing wrong with exploiting the strength in numbers so long as it benefits the top end of town.
Florence
“Why is it only the construction and building industry that seem to have so much strife with unions”
I think the MSM have a lot to answer for, as soon as there is any disruption on a project site it is front page news. Distorted articles written by a reporter who is sitting on their bum in an air conditioned office, claiming that the wages and conditions of workers on a construction site are outrageous always amuse me. Project principles often play games to reduce costs and sometimes provoking workers so they go on strike benefits them, they can avoid paying wet money during bad weather or blame the union for overrunning a project deadline.
Publishing award details without explaining how or why they are justified is a typical ploy to discredit the union and take attention away from the real problems with a project. Construction workers do not have continuous employment, the work is dangerous, they work in the heat and the rain, on site amenities are crude, they work long hours (usually min of 56 hours per week), they often need to relocate from one job to the next, living in construction towns is expensive and they don’t receive a tax deduction for many of the unique expenses they incur.
When I worked on construction I found that despite my wage being double what it would have been if I worked a regular job I was financially no better off. The cost of food, clothes and accommodation in a construction town are so inflated I don’t know how the permanent residents can afford to live during the construction phase of the project.
Wally I think the answer could be that building and construction are made up of many who are corrupt. From developers down.
I learnt when young, when one worked in factories that made up the manufacturing industry, nice gentlemen were useless as union reps and organisers.
They need to be able to match the animal that was in most employers,
Was in late 1950’s. Found German reps the best value at the time.
At least we were under no illusion then that when it come to the union movement, likes of Master Builders were badly done by.
Keep in mind the cost of laying fibre to home has dropped dramatically since work began on NBNco. This was admitted by this mob at senate hearings, One had to admit he is laying fibre to the home in Canada for that reason.
Turnbull’s handling of this matter has been a con from day one.
Sad part is, your kids down the track are going to have expense of throwing MTM away and starting again with fibre to the premises. There will be no other choice.
Investment in education and skilling will save money in the future, Paying a little extra for NBNco would have return big dividends down the track.
Sometimes spending money leads to savings.
Sometimes it could even mean making more money/
Austerity, not spending money leads to economy collapsing. That is, waste.