Me Biased “Never”

The Australian

Bias is a bastard of a topic because its like rust. It spreads everywhere. The most common form of bias is found in sport. The one eyed football supporter is so biased he/she can see no redeeming features about the opposition. Collingwood supporters in the AFL are acknowledged as the most feral variety. (Have I lost any friends?). Bias also occurs in advertising where we are seemingly told with open bias the merit of one product over another. Bias also inhabits the corporate world where it is used in reporting profit or in surveys where the outcome is slanted toward the corporation.Or even in polls where a certain outcome is beneficial to whoever commissioned it. Religion shows its bias when it will not allow certain practices in health, or excludes sex education in its schools. Then there is omission bias where vital information is deleted or purposely left out. and of course there is the bias of sensationalism where it is given precedence over the mundane which might be the more factual. Another is concision bias, a tendency to report views that can be summarised succinctly, crowding out more unconventional views that take time to explain. Then there is what I call social bias which favours or attacks a particular race,religion, gender, age,sexual orientation, ethnic group or even an individual. Science of course has a bias of fact before feeling.

Historically, bias has always existed. Here are a few examples of accusations over time. These I picked up from the internet. They make for interesting reading.

  • In the United States, in 1798, Congress passed the Alien and Sedition Acts, which prohibited newspapers from publishing “false, scandalous, or malicious writing” against the government, including any public opposition to any law or presidential act. This act was in effect until 1801.
  • During the American Civil War, President Abraham Lincoln accused newspapers in the border states of bias in favour of the Southern cause, and ordered many newspapers closed.
  • Chancellor Adolf Hitler of Germany, in the years leading up to World War II, accused newspapers of Marxist bias, an accusation echoed by pro-German media in England and the United States.
  • Politicians who favoured the United States entering World War II on the German side asserted that the international media were controlled by Jews, and that reports of German mistreatment of Jews were biased and without foundation. Hollywood was said to be a hotbed of Jewish bias, and films such as Charlie Chaplin’s The Great Dictator were offered as proof.
  • In the 1980s, the South African government accused newspapers of liberal bias and instituted government censorship. In 1989, the newspaper New Nation was closed by the government for three months for publishing anti-apartheid propaganda. Other newspapers were not closed, but were extensively censored. Some[who?] published the censored sections blacked out, to demonstrate the extent of government censorship.
  • In the USA during the labour union movement and the civil rights movement, newspapers supporting liberal social reform were accused by conservative newspapers of communist bias. Film and television media were accused of bias in favour of mixing of the races, and many television programs with racially mixed casts, such as I Spy and Star Trek, were not aired on Southern stations.
  • During the war between the United States and North Vietnam, Vice President Spiro Agnew accused newspapers of anti-American bias, and in a famous speech delivered in San Diego in 1970, called anti-war protesters “the nattering nabobs of negativism”.

So we have established that bias exists and it always will. It’s a human emotion. How do we describe it. There are many different dictionary definitions however I came up with my own:

“It is an opinion, that in the absence of objectivity, is prejudiced and unbalanced. Its foundation is untruth and therefore cannot be impartial”.

Specifically what I am interested in is political bias as it relates to truth, fact and free speech. An example of what I mean is Canada’s decision not to allow Fox News on its airwaves (most courageous I might add) on the basis that they are so biased they could not be trusted to tell the truth.So it raises the question. Is Fox News so biased that it cannot distinguish between the two? Then of course another question arises: Can you be biased and tell the truth at the same time? I think not because to be totality biased requires a degree of untruth and the elimination of facts..

Another example is “The Australian” newspaper. Sometimes called the official newsletter of the LNP. Why does it exist? It loses millions of dollars annually for an owner who has spent a lifetime in the pursuit of financial riches. There can only be one reason and that is to perpetuate its bias. And biased it is. Generally speaking newspapers report (or should report) both sides of an argument. Its bias will usually slant toward its own editorial bent. However, most will seek to achieve a reasonable balance in light of the weight of any given argument. With climate change it would be hard to argue that the weight should not come down on the side of science. Yet in his Quarterly Essay critique last year Australian academic Robert Manne read almost seven years worth of news and opinion articles in the Australian Newspaper and discovered that, of the 880 articles printed, just 180 were “favourable to climate change action and 700 unfavourable” – a four to one difference. On the newspapers opinion pages alone, the skeptics out-number the “consensus” 10 to one. Enough said. You be the judge.

Currently we are seeing overwhelming evidence of bias in the Australian media, and in a most aggressive manner. Fairfax in no uncertain terms has taken a sudden lurch to the right. Its sales are falling at an alarming rate and it seems they have decided that by being as shrill as their competitors it will in some way turn things around. The Melbourne Age (once considered to be one of the worlds finest broadsheets) has descended into nonsensical drivel. Its failure to aggressively report on the Slipper/Ashby case is tantamount to bias by omission. And its attack on the Prime Minister over the AWU affair when there was clearly no evidence to convict her was yet another example of its biased attitude. There was a time when If I didn’t get my daily dose of The Age, then somehow my day wouldn’t be complete. Now I take a cursory look online, but if they go behind a paywall I won’t bother. With Fairfax now firmly on the right and the other 70% owned by Murdoch the print bias it seems will continue unabated. What hope for democracy?

The ABC’s reporting of the resignations of two ministers together with the announcement of the election date shows that they too have deserted balance for bias. How else could one describe their bizarre reporting of these most ordinary events using the most sensationalist language. Added to this is the daily reporting of the imminent Rudd challenge. As fellow blogger Michael Taylor pointed out earlier this week when commenting on three articles by Gemma Jones for The Daily Telegraph. Quote “I would argue that the content, in most cases, is fabricated as are the sources and statements that the articles are built around”. Yet another example of biased misrepresentation or biased reporting.

It is common when reading comments on various blogs just how blatantly biased individuals really are. When discussing economics I am often amused at how the GFC seems to have never happened or that Wayne Swan is not correct about a ‘profits based’ tax. That you only acquire the tax when the profits are high. And people of the left leave out the fact that it does appear to have been badly constructed. And that Swan did promise a surplus a number of times. Surely we can all be truthful with each other. Yes it was wrong of him to do so, but at the same time give him credit for having the fortitude to correct his wrong for the common good.

Three further examples of how media bias can distort the facts. There is no doubt that the government has taken a pounding over:

  1. ‘Pink Batt’s. But the fact is that the much maligned pink bats program was not the disaster the opposition and the media made it out to be. Official records show that there were no fires in 99.98% of the million ceilings insulated. Two in ten thousand (224) had fires and just thirty had structural damage. This rate of fires was less than occurred prior to the HIP So that ironically the scheme in the long term has actually prevented house fires.
    Tony Abbott stated, “No good government would ever spend more than a billion dollars putting pink batts into roofs and a billion dollars to take them out again”. This has been shown to be a lie. The cost of rectification of faulty insulation installation was nowhere near that figure. Around twenty percent of ceilings had inspections but only 4.2% had rectification works to make them safe.
  2. The Schools Rebuilding Program. It seems the schools building program was more successful than a biased media would have us believe. Three comprehensive reports from the BER Implementation Taskforce chaired by businessman Brad Orgill showed over 97% satisfaction with the program. The report said: “Overall, the Taskforce found that the majority of education authorities attained value for money and delivered quality education facilities. The Final Report notes that the program has touched every community in Australia, and has delivered substantial stimulus.” There was some overcharging, mostly in NSW where the rollout was fastest. There was some waste, but overall there was value for money, not billions of dollars wasted as the media and opposition asserted. The report said that the majority of those who had children at the schools where improvements had been made were well satisfied with the program.
  3. What did Julia Gillard really say about a carbon tax? When the Prime Minister said “I don’t rule out the possibility of legislating a Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme, a market-based mechanism,”. “I rule out a carbon tax.” Did she actually tell a lie? Clearly she showed an intent to keep her options open. As it turns out we have a market based scheme. She was not trying to deceive. She was being honest within the uncertainty of the circumstances. And a biased media intent on bringing down the government never gave her the benefit of the doubt.

Since the inception of a minority government with a women at its head a biased media has spent two and a bit years trying to bring it down for its own vested reasons. It has given Tony Abbott a free ride and even with an election looming it has little intention of putting any policy pressure on him. Who needs the truth. The fact of the matter is that if you take a close look at the governments policies you could make a good case for it being the most reformist the country has seen. In addition they have been competent economic managers. They have achieved significant legislative reforms. And while they have had their missteps, no government is immune from error or miscalculation.

So who can stop the biased rants of main stream media? Blogs like this one can.

A family member tells me I am the most politically biased man he has ever met. Mind you he also thinks you can win an argument by shouting the loudest. I counter that by saying I am a democrat in the first instance. Meaning that although I am of the left I concede that the right has as much right to govern as does my side. He thinks the left should never gain power so I will leave it to the reader to decide who is biased. Bias to me is the elimination of truth and fact. Or when its impossible to comprehend or acknowledge the other point of view. One sees it continuously in the comments people post on this blog. More often than not they are an expression of the writers feelings rather than a conveyance of fact,and its called bias.

One last thought. I am a Bombers supporter (Essendon) They will win this years premiership by 10 goals on the trot. And I am not biased.

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  1. Your title has to be ironic eh John?

    There is nor has there ever been any media entity that is truly unbiased, its just impossible because all media is made by humans and all humans are by there very natured imbued with one sort of bias or another.
    Sadly I think that you are suffering form the common misconception that its possible to have an “objective media” it isn’t and sensible people just learn to live with that fact the same way that we learn to live with the ever changing weather.

  2. Well said John. You speak the truth .. and that’s not bias .. that’s just the facts.

  3. Truth is relative, so it could be biased… and that’s a fact.

  4. I think I alluded to that in what I have written Iain and you are probably correct. I just make the poit that when all media is biased to one side it makes balanced reporting somewhat impossible.

  5. John Lord wrote:
    Specifically what I am interested in is political bias as it relates to truth, fact and free speech. An example of what I mean is Canada’s decision not to allow Fox News on its airwaves (most courageous I might add) on the basis that they are so biased they could not be trusted to tell the truth.

    This is untrue.

    Fox News is available in Canada, just as it is in Australia and many other countries.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/foxcanada.asp
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,184837,00.html

  6. I’m so glad there are other voices out there that mirror my sentiments. Sometimes I feel very lonely and sad about what is happening to our media and the power they misguidedly wield. I despise injustice. On the one hand the msm criticise the govt. for not getting their message out, and yet they are the ones that keep the focus on leadership issues. The msm are so toxic now, they have cornered themselves with Murdoch and a good government with many good policies will be gone. I despair.

  7. ‘Since the inception of a minority government with a women at its head a biased media has spent two and a bit years trying to bring it down for its own vested reasons.’

    The PM deserves the flack she has been getting from a watchful media. In a robust democracy the media plays the role of watchdog, sniffing out corruption.

    The only vested interest in Fairfax is the hapless board and the long suffereing shareholders.

    The Murdoch rags generally lean to the right, but they go for scoops no matter what political persuasion.

    The ABC newsroom needs to be broken up and purged of leftards in green shirts.

  8. I like to think of myself as objective and unbiased,i just dont like Tories.

  9. Reposting as delayed moderation will cause comment to appear to far back.
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    John Lord wrote:
    Specifically what I am interested in is political bias as it relates to truth, fact and free speech. An example of what I mean is Canada’s decision not to allow Fox News on its airwaves (most courageous I might add) on the basis that they are so biased they could not be trusted to tell the truth.

    This is untrue.

    Fox News is available in Canada, just as it is in Australia and many other countries.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/foxcanada.asp
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,184837,00.html

  10. Journalists should print the facts as they seem them allowing people to form their bias, or opinion not pre serve it, already opinionated. Now the real risk here is in the event only one side gets it’s say, then we will digress, if people see it so skewed that they no longer can see any semblance of fair play, do you think it would just simply be accepted? Or can you see more extreme measures being taken to look for balance? This is dangerous ground and as with most things a price to be paid. How much we are pre pared to pay is what should worry any thinking person. Those that deliberately caused this should reap what they have sown. This is not a sport it’s is people lives. I for one no longer care for the politics and will simply vote against the LNP, where I may have voted for them if they had simply put a better vision for the future, rather than by any other means than through higher principles. And damn all of them for it because now we don’t debate whats good for the country.

  11. Love your work. Go the Giants!

  12. ‘With Fairfax now firmly on the right and the other 70% owned by Murdoch the print bias it seems will continue unabated. What hope for democracy?’

    This is purely subjective, I consider the Fairfax stable as left wing because of their stand on climate change.

    And just to reassure everyone here, democracy is safe now that the people have the interwebys.

  13. ‘where I may have voted for them if they had simply put a better vision for the future’

    Abbott will begin rolling out their platform around Easter, which should give his side a big bounce.

    I’m not privvy but think he may go for large infrastructure building, dams, satellite towns linked by bullet trains, science fiction stuff.

    Its what the people want, a team with vision.

  14. Most seem to use the label “left” and “right” without any rationale. Fairfax campaigns in favour of asylum seekers, it generally promotes carbon reduction. It’s hardly supporting a “right” agenda.

    What it does do, is point out some of the failings of this government. That’s not an activity that is limited to the “right”, because the ALP isn’t “left”.

    It’s time for people to show a little more maturity in the political descriptors (if they feel it necessary to use them)

  15. Yes it is true that perfect objectivity is an ideal that’s impossible to attain but every journalist has to make an effort. The disturbing thing we have seen during the term of this government is not that you come across the occasional journalist who is evidently not being objective but that now the media is hunting in packs. They are thinking as a mob, not as individual members of a professional industry guided by a code of ethics and the public interest. That is what really concerns me because an independent discerning media is essential to the proper functioning of a healthy democracy.

  16. Maybe reading Ashby/Slipper Judgement, Then the Craig Thomson saga, along with what was done to Hanson, I think you miss the point entirely, at this stage there is nothing they could do to gain my support. I’ve seen vision and then I’ve seen the blind and ignorant, Abbott doesn’t have vision he has lies deceit and innuendo, and those that support him are blind and ignorant, like I said when he chose his methods to win at any cost, I Chose to no longer hear a word he says. And I’m not a fan of Labor their ridiculous stance on immigration, not supporting Australian citizens overseas. The Greens aren’t up to running the economy, and seeing in that case it will be one of the major two, and I’m not listening to Abbott.

  17. I think the general gist of this article is true. One example illustrates this: when the judge ruled that the LNP had perverted judicial process for political means via Ashby and Brough The Australian did not cover it on that week’s front page of the Saturday paper. This following their obessive front page coverage of Gillard and the AWU. Instead The Australian led with an article accusing the ABC of left wing bias. I repeat a judge has found that the Opposition abused judicial process for political gain! The silence is DEAFENING!!!

    I too now give the Age a cursory glance as it now as joined the right wing tabloid ‘bring down her’ chorus i.e. remove the PM at all costs.

    Yes I sit on the left. And be nice to see the Crows take out the flag this year

  18. Russell, you are despicable. Port will be the team to beat.

    Me biased. Of course.

    Unfortunately they will be the team to beat. They’ll be beat quite often. :(

  19. :”e but that now the media is hunting in packs. They are thinking as a mob, not as individual members of a professional industry guided by a code of ethics and the public interest.”

    Sadly there is so much truth in this comment. Hunting in packs seems to be the new norm. Frightening.

  20. “So who can stop the biased rants of main stream media? Blogs like this one can.”

    Is bias the right word.

    I would rather use deliberated lying by the media, to create a false perception in the community.

  21. Some say the PM desrves the way the MSM treats her.

    Did they not read what has just been written. There is nothing in the PM’s achievements, that open her up to the daily attacks she has to endure.

    Most of what has been written, on close examination is proven to be straighout lies.

  22. What is wrong with bias. If I read a article by a leftwing writer, I do not expect ro see views from the right.

    That does not make what is written wrong. It means it is written from a left wing perceptive. People have different values and aims.

    What news should be about. is the reporting what has happened and what is said. It is up to the people to form their own opinions.

  23. Hate to be pain. There is of course no truth, just different perceptions from different reference points which are all different. What becomes called truth, is a grouping of similar perceptions.

  24. It seems Fox News is available in Canada via cable. It did however go through a period where a licence was refused for the reasons I gave. So I stand partly corrected.

  25. Mark Fletcher is correct, there is no ultimate truth, but Aly comes close to it in this opinion piece.

    ‘Labor’s problem is ideological. It doesn’t really mean anything any more, and probably hasn’t since Paul Keating lost power in 1996.’

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/labor-has-lost-the-plot-and-the-narrative-20130221-2eua9.html#ixzz2LYzbfVwf

  26. Mark, sorry but there is always truth, some people might perceive it differently, but that doesn’t change the truth ie;

    there is a dark blue car that someone sees at night time and concludes that it is black. does their perception change the colour of the car? no it’s still dark blue.

    To some people who are colour blind, red might be seen as green, to them the colour is green but the truth is it is red.

    Unfortunately there seems to be an LNP philosophy which tells them that if they tell a lie long enough and loud enough it will magically become the truth, but it won’t.
    It might become the general perception, but if it starts out a lie it will remain a lie.

    The TRUTH, is an unalterable fact, and individuals perception of the truth can be, in reality, complete fabrication, or anywhere between truth and lies.

    And those that know how to use the language properly, can portray something as the truth by the omission of one or more pieces of information, or misrepresenting it, by giving more emphasis or credence to the opposing view, or stating their own opposing opinion as fact, etc.

    Truth is always truth! If people choose to ignore it, or seek to misrepresent it, that is their prerogative, but doesn’t change the essential truth.

    For our democracy’s sake, we should be told the truth so that we can make informed decisions about those that we want to run our country, but when the truth is misrepresented to change peoples perceptions for the sake of supporting vested interests, then it is our democracy that is at risk, and those that are perpetrating this great deception should be held, or brought, to account.

    Cheers

  27. “It is said of pornography (and I am not expert in this field) that in order to maintain the viewers interest it needs to progressively become more outlandish – more tantalising – more seductive-more flirtatious-more provocative – more stunning and more enticing. And in their desire to maintain some dominance,that’s exactly what main stream media is doing. It has chosen to prostitute itself in the forlorn hope of remaining relevant”

  28. el dildo, it’s hardly surprising that you refuse to accept the existence of truth, as you are one of those that believe that if you tell a lie long enough and loud enough it will become truth……. FAIL!

  29. “Labor’s problem is ideological. It doesn’t really mean anything any more, and probably hasn’t since Paul Keating lost power in 1996.’”

    Says who?

    Are we now being fed the same old chestnut, that Howard was not idealogicial, nor is Abbott.

    If one had looked at history before he was elected. One would not have been surprised at one action he took. Especially user pay and his attacks on unions. It was there for all to see,

    The same goes for Abbott. Wha he has said and done over the years, points to what he will do.

    The truth with Abbott comes from his past, not what he said now. All the make overs in the world will not change this.

    What has the PM done that contradicts Labor ideology.

    I admit there has been an effort by the bias or in my belief, misinformation to create this preception by the media..

    This does not make it true.

  30. “Says who?”

    That right-wing extremist Waleed Aly seems to think so….

    http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/labor-has-lost-the-plot-and-the-narrative-20130221-2eua9.html

    (I guess he must be part of “the hate media” now too).

  31. The same accustions were made against Mr. Keating. He was hated by many because they seen his actions as selling out Labor values.

    History has written up the opposite. Same applied for Mr. Whitlam, and will do so for this PM.

  32. ‘…the TRUTH…’

    *’I’ll build community consensus’
    *’I will use a representative forum’
    *’I will not introduce a change before 30 June 2013′
    *’There will be no carbon tax’
    *’Another boat, another policy failure’
    *…and of course ‘I was young and naive’

  33. I believe there are always facts.

    Some see these facts in differenet ways. Some see them as truth. Take this morning, there is the announcement that the poker machince trial is not going ahead until after the electiion.

    Some will see that fact as another lie by the PM. Others have been willing to take it at face value,take into account the time left before the election does not let it go ahead.

    Others could see it as the4 poker machine lobby taking the opportunity of the election to postpone, hoping that Abbott wins, and the whole matter can be dropped.

    Where does the truth lay.

    I am now watching Hockey, replying to Mr. Swans announcement, twisting the facts, to fit in with his agenda,

    He is thankfully being questioned and taken to account.

    Where is the truth.

  34. It’s bizarre the way some suggest Fairfax is ‘right’ or anti ALP. It’s stupid.

    Just looking at The Age-
    *’Greens threat to Gonski package’
    *Greens ‘hypocrites’ on mining tax
    *Criticisms of Rudd’s campaigning go right over his head

    Plenty of people who want to explain away incompetence, dishonesty and loss of values simply lapse into blaming the media.

  35. If the media really wielded the power that some people think then Abbott would be polling better on personal satisfaction.

  36. That is a good point Reb ;)

  37. reb, if the MSM weren’t supporting his blatant lies and deceptions, he wouldn’t be polling at all, and the fact that Iain says “that is a good point” says it all. :shock:

    You obviously know more than the communist, military juntas and despotic regimes, who take over and tightly control the media… :roll:

  38. “Abbott would be polling better on personal satisfaction.”

    Maybe not even the media can perform miracles. One thing for sure, it has not been for the lack of trying.

  39. “You obviously know more than the communist, military juntas and despotic regimes, who take over and tightly control the media…

    What on Earth prompted that little rant…? :shock:

  40. You see, so of this analysis is just misguided or ignorant. For example-

    ‘Pink Batt’s. But the fact is that the much maligned pink bats program was not the disaster the opposition and the media made it out to be.

    • The government deliberately stimulated an industry that already had a poor safety record.
    • It deliberately sought to bring new, inexperienced entrants
    • It knew that there would be a range of shonky operators attracted to this sector by the lure of quick government money.

    Ask any safety expert about the root causes of safety problems and they will suggest-
    • New, inexperienced entrants lacking training
    • A predominance of subcontracting
    • A “make a quick buck” culture

    The government specifically and deliberately ramped up an industry that met the 3 main criteria for poor safety. Each incident many not have been the direct fault of the government, but the government has to share the opprobrium for their actions and neglect.

    …I could also critique the other examples used, and might get around to that later.

    But the point is- only the lazy blame the media for the malaise of this government.

  41. “You see, so muchof this analysis is …”

  42. ToM,
    But the “pink batts” happend under the man who you want back as PM Rudd!

  43. reb, that “little rant” was simply pointing out the puerile and dismissive nature of your statement

    If the media really wielded the power that some people think then Abbott would be polling better on personal satisfaction.

    I am surprised that I have to spell it out for you, Mmmmmmm :roll: :shock:

  44. Yes Jason, Rudd made plenty of mistakes, he has a blemished record.

    But I’m supporting his return for a range of reasons-
    *I’m not at all fond of the Liberals
    *Gillard is no leader, and her continuing will lead to decimation of the parliamentary ALP
    *Rudd’s leadership has a chance of actually succeeding
    *A win or a respectable loss would allow the restructuring of the ALP, which it so desperately needs
    *Symbolisim is important and Rudd’s leadership would be a huge slap in the face to the union hacks and powerbrokers

    A return to Rudd would have me cast my first formal vote for a number of years.

  45. Yellow ToM, what a croc :roll: talk about full of it, you must think we are as stupid as you are.

    You support Rudd in the hope of adding your part to the attempted destabilisation by the LNP and the MSM.

    You couldn’t lie straight in bed :shock: , any of you :sad:

  46. “Bias is a measure of conviction however; stupidity is a lack of courage by way of not substantiating ones persuasion other than to blow a lemming trumpet to live through the lie of those seeking power and glory”

  47. ToM,
    I don’t see Rudd as a reformer of the party, there are too many who dislike him!

  48. John Lord wrote:
    It seems Fox News is available in Canada via cable. It did however go through a period where a licence was refused for the reasons I gave. So I stand partly corrected.

    Again John – untrue.

    The “reasons you gave” were “on the basis that they are so biased they could not be trusted to tell the truth.”

    The actual reasons were commercial, and related to “local content” rules, and whether Fox was ‘competitive with existing Canadian pay or specialty services.’

    When Fox altered it’s application to satisfy these local-content/competition provisions, they were approved.

    The “bias/truth” reason you purport formed no part of the initial rejection.

    Timeline
    - In November, 2003, Canada rejected an application to create “Fox News Canada”, a combined chanel made by Fox and a local broadcaster.
    - In March, 2004, Fox abandoned plans to create a combined channel.
    - In April, 2004, they re-applied to broadcast “Fox USA” into Canada.
    - In November, 2004, this application was approved.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2004/11/18/fox_crtc041118.html

    The CRTC rejected a CCTA application to bring Fox to Canada last November because Fox News U.S. and Winnipeg-based Global Television were planning to create Fox News Canada, a combination of U.S. and Canadian news.

    However, in March, a Fox U.S. executive said there were no plans to create the combined channel.

  49. Jason, Rudd could reform the party because (if he won) he would be in an unassailable position. He would have the reason- he’s experienced the very worst of the underhanded ways of the hacks.

    If the ALP sticks with Gillard, they’ll get done- badly, and there will be a surgical examination. But the party will come off a very low base.

    The only way to get effective reform, and leave the parliamentary party in decent shape, is to return to Rudd.
    ===========
    Truth Seeker, what a misnomer that is. A company couldn’t get away with that level of misrepresentation about their real objectives.

    Typically you speculate about motives, fact free nonsense. Made up, pathetic, baseless crap- your stock in trade.

    The best that can be said of your comment is – we’re all grateful that you didn’t attempt to make it rhyme.

  50. “reb, that “little rant” was simply pointing out theeb, that “little rant” was simply pointing out the puerile and dismissive nature of your statement nature of your statement

    “puerile and dismissive…?”

    That’s a bit puerile and dismissive isn’t it…?

  51. “The best that can be said of your comment is – we’re all grateful that you didn’t attempt to make it rhyme.”

    LOL! :)

  52. TS, so true. The truth is the truth and will always come out. Sadly the more mud that is thrown the more that sticks.

    The ASHBYGATE TRUTH will come out, one day, I am sure of that.

    Perhaps MSM should now be running headlines of “where’s Wally”, I mean Abbott but the phrase suits perhaps in light of the abscence.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wT9XS_TvzQ —– who cares, shit happens. What a great statesman. No wonder they are hiding him.

  53. ‘TS, so true. The truth is the truth and will always come out.’

    Ah…no. Truth is relative and it doesn’t always come out.

  54. Yellow = a good colour for you ToM, and you and your lying mates think that by pretending to be sympathetic to the left but disillusioned, you can gain some credibility amongst those lurkers that don’t know you for who you really are, and you don’t even bother to deny it, you just carry on with your lies and spin. :shock:

    And if you had any real guts or conviction you and your ToM group would start your own blog, :lol:

    And BTW, I don’t have to “attempt” to make anything rhyme, as I have been writing songs and poetry since you were a mere stain on the side of your dads bucket! :mrgreen: pathetic

    Reb, thanks for that, you have just proved my point :sad:

  55. FAIL BY TRUTH SEEKER!

    Lame…self-justification. Kindergarten comment.

    Actually… how many calories are burned by scrolling? That’s how people can put Truth Seeker’s posts to good use.

  56. And purple ToM raises his/her/it’s ugly head with a quick… Look over there… moment, :shock: Nothing more than was expected from the inherently dishonest ToM brigade, and so impressive that you learnt how to use. BOLD to highlight your dishonesty.

    BTW, you don’t have to label your comments before making them, as most know what to expect from theToMs. :sad:

    But I think that you have made my point for me, so I can go back to ignoring you now, which is what you all, yellow, purple and purple deserve

  57. Whether Fox is in Canada or not, I for one would like to see their rules here. Cannot see what is wrong in demanding truth in news.

  58. Love your work, John Lord. There’s so much positive ‘stuff’ you don’t get to hear about in the MSM in case it’s seen as such. I really think that omission is bad as obvious bias written as such. Leave out relevant details and you have lies by omission…

  59. Fed up, or at bare minimum a section in the media labelled “opinion” so that statements such as Thomson Is Guilty are known to be just that, opinion and not factual information.

  60. “I can go back to ignoring you now”

    You’ve threatened that before, and (typically) failed to keep your word. I do trust you will on this occasion. Your juvenile playground level of maturity adds nothing, no insight, no intelligence, no entertainment, no information…it’s all a dull misrepresentation of “seeking truth”.

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